From the monthly archives:

July 2006

UPDATE
In January 2008, the following post was identified as the 26th most-read post on this blog. The 27th most-read post was “The Best Blond Joke in the World Ever.”

If you don’t yet own Logos Bible Software, then this offer is still available. If you purchase through my site, I receive some reimbursement as a result. You will not regret this, I’m sure!

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I’m delighted to be able to bring you a very special deal from one of my favorite Christian companies. Logos Bible Software has offered readers of my blog a 25% discount if they follow the link from my site and purchase one of their base libraries, adding the code WARNOCK at check-out.

What is Bible software and why should I want it?” you might ask me. In this digital age, Bible software uniquely enables you to study the Bible in depth in a way that previous generations could only dream of doing. When I first began studying to preach, I could sometimes be found in the London-based Evangelical Library with a load of books strewn on the desk in front of me. Logos soon put a stop to that!

For many years now—if I want to check out the meaning of a Bible passage, or do a word study in the original Greek, or indeed check out the latest theological thinking on a certain subject—I almost always turn to my full-time personal digital assistant—where I can get the information I need in seconds. I call my growing collection of electronic commentaries, lexicons, Bibles, interlinear Bibles, reference books, and theological journals my personal Theological Seminary in a Box.

Just one example of what is available—almost all of John MacArthur’s life works can be purchased on just one disk! (What will I use as a doorstop now, you ask?) There are, in fact, thousands of books and products that you can add to your Logos library.

Over the years I have found this software to be an invaluable resource in sermon preparation, and I can’t recommend it highly enough. At first glance the prices do not seem cheap, I will admit, but there are two things to remember:

  1. The first is that, per book, the prices are very low. Scholar Gold, for example, works out at less than $1.50 a book! To buy the print copies of these amazing resources has been estimated by the makers to cost over $11,000!

  2. The second is that I know many of you will have at least considered putting careers on hold and remortgaging your homes in order to pay for a theological education. Some people might actually find this software to be a better investment, or at the least, buying it might help you decide if Bible college really is for you and thereby save a costly mistake! A few hundred dollars to save a few thousand is not a bad idea.

For me at least, I have found that this software goes a long way towards covering my own lack of theological degrees. Certainly I have needed to learn from others in real life (and have, in fact, done day release courses over the years). But with Logos, the pooled expertise of thousands of scholars is instantly at my fingertips!

Being able to search your entire library for references to that obscure Bible verse you are trying to understand is a virtual life-send when preparing a sermon. It is like being able to ask thousands of scholars what, if anything, they have written on a particular verse, and getting an answer from any of them who have done so in only a matter of seconds!

Even if you are not a preacher, I can’t recommend this resource highly enough, and I hope you will benefit from it over many many years, as I have.

A wise man or woman invests their money where it will have a return in the long-term. A copy of any of these Logos Bible Software libraries is just such an investment. Enjoy it, and enjoy the discount with my blessing, and thanks for reading this blog.

At least now you have something to read during my holiday, if you didn’t already have before! I will be back to blogging sometime in mid-to-late August – Dan Phillips and the rest will have to wait until then—I obviously do have unfinished business there! In the meantime, enjoy the Warnie headlines!

As a further response to the ongoing discussion between Dan Phillips and myself, I received the following article from Sam Storms via email. This will be appearing on his site, Enjoying God Ministries, in a week or so. In the meantime, he has given me permission to post it here.


In recent days two bloggers have taken up the question of the gift of speaking in tongues in the New Testament: see http://adrianwarnock.com/ and http://www.teampyro.blogspot.com/. The latter of these two, written by Dan Phillips, argues that “the Bible only knows one kind of tongues . . . . That kind is supernaturally-acquired human languages.” The argument of Phillips and other cessationists is that modern manifestations of “tongues” have been shown not to be human languages and therefore are not the same as what we read in the New Testament.

I have a few comments in response (all of which are taken from my book, “The Beginner’s Guide to Spiritual Gifts” [Regal]). Acts 2 is the only text in the NT where tongues-speech consists of foreign languages not previously known by the speaker. But there is no reason to think Acts 2, rather than, say, 1 Corinthians 14, is the standard by which all occurrences of tongues-speech must be judged. Other factors suggest that tongues could also be heavenly or angelic speech.

To begin, if tongues-speech is always in a foreign language intended as a sign for unbelievers, why are the tongues in Acts 10 and Acts 19 spoken in the presence of only believers? Note also that Paul describes various “kinds” or “species” (Thiselton, 1 Corinthians, 970) of tongues” (gene glosson) in 1 Corinthians 12:10. It is unlikely that he means a variety of different human languages, for whoever would have argued that all tongues were only one human language, such as Greek or Hebrew or German? His words suggest that there are differing categories of tongues-speech, perhaps human languages and heavenly languages.

In 1 Corinthians 14:2, Paul asserts that whoever speaks in a tongue “does not speak to men, but to God.” But if tongues are always human languages, Paul is mistaken, for “speaking to men” is precisely what a human language does! If tongues-speech is always a human language, how could Paul say that when one speaks “no one understands” (1 Corinthians 14:2)? If tongues are human languages, many could potentially understand, as they did on the day of Pentecost (Acts 2:8-11). This would especially be true in Corinth, a multi-lingual cosmopolitan port city that was frequented by people of numerous dialects. Moreover, if tongues-speech always is in a human language, then the gift of interpretation would be one for which no special work or enablement or manifestation of the Spirit would be required. Anyone who was multi-lingual, such as Paul, could interpret tongues-speech simply by virtue of his educational talent. Furthermore, in 1 Corinthians 13:2, Paul refers to “the tongues of men and of angels.” While he may be using hyperbole, he just as likely may be referring to heavenly or angelic dialects for which the Holy Spirit gives utterance. Gordon Fee cites evidence in certain ancient Jewish sources that the angels were believed to have their own heavenly languages or dialects and that by means of the Spirit one could speak them (Fee, 630-31; see Hays, 223). We should also take note of the Testament of Job 48-50, where Job’s three daughters put on heavenly sashes given to them as an inheritance from their father, by which they are transformed and enabled to praise God with hymns in angelic languages. Some have questioned this account, however, pointing out that this section of the Testament may have been the work of a later Christian author. Yet, as Forbes points out, “what the Testament does provide . . . is clear evidence that the concept of angelic languages as a mode of praise to God was an acceptable one within certain circles. As such it is our nearest parallel to glossolalia” (185-86).
The fact that tongues are said to cease at the parousia (1 Corinthians 13:8) leads Anthony Thiselton to conclude that it cannot be angelic speech, for why would a heavenly language terminate in the eschaton (see his First Corinthians, pp. 973, 1061-62)? But it would not be heavenly speech per se that ends, but heavenly speech on the part of humans designed to compensate now for the limitations endemic to our fallen, pre-consummate condition. Some say the reference in 1 Corinthians 14:10-11 to earthly, foreign languages proves that all tongues-speech is also human languages. But the point of the analogy is that tongues function like foreign languages, not that tongues are foreign languages. Paul’s point is that the hearer cannot understand uninterpreted tongues any more than he can understand the one speaking a foreign language. If tongues were a foreign language, there would be no need for an analogy. Paul’s statement in 1 Corinthians 14:18 that he “speaks in tongues more than you all” is evidence that tongues are not foreign languages. As Wayne Grudem (Systematic Theology, 1072) notes, “If they were known foreign languages that foreigners could understand, as at Pentecost, why would Paul speak more than all the Corinthians in private, where no one would understand, rather than in church where foreign visitors could understand?” Finally, if tongues-speech is always human language, Paul’s statement in 1 Corinthians 14:23 wouldn’t necessarily hold true. Any unbeliever who would know the language being spoken would more likely conclude the person speaking was highly educated rather than “mad.”

I’m sure that much more could (and probably will) be said on the subject, but I hope these brief observations will prove helpful in the discussion.

Links for July 27, 2006

July 27, 2006

Newfrontiers Together On A Mission: Audio DownloadsThe audio from this fantastic conference is NOW available to download. Don’t miss session nine by Terry Virgo, but download them all! My live blogging notes are available if you need help in choosing which ones you want to listen to.
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“Five of us took eleven guys to Canada [...]

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Countdown to My Holiday . . .

July 26, 2006

The last three days have been the first since the onset of my shingles that I have attempted to sit up at a computer desk for a full day’s work. (I have worked other days, but mostly from my bed – half-lying down puts less strain on the affected nerve!). Unfortunately the nerve pain has [...]

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Links for July 26, 2006

July 26, 2006

“Tongues” Across the Water: Pyromaniac’s Response to Me – Part One

DJP has a gracious, but firm, response to my post on tongues. Sadly I am winding things down here right now ahead of my holiday so can’t respond yet, except to say that, as is common in these debates, he has replied to a view [...]

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Google Toolbar – the Blogger’s Toolkit

July 26, 2006

Every now and then I decide I want to pull back the curtain and let you see a little bit about what goes on behind the scenes here. I thought today I would share one of my favorite blogging tools with you – the beta version of the Google Toolbar.
If you want to download this [...]

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Links for July 25, 2006

July 25, 2006

Sufficient and Efficient Grace – Spurgeon, Tongues, and the Toronto Blessing

In this post, I lay down a gauntlet of a series of questions for my non-charismatic friends.
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A La Carte (7/25) – Some Particularly Good Links

Tim’s A la Carte post today is especially good, so much so that I’m going to just direct [...]

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Sufficient and Efficient Grace – Spurgeon, Tongues, and the Toronto Blessing

July 25, 2006

There you go . . .that got your attention, didn’t it! This is a post written in response to two great posts that appeared over at my good friends’ blog—the Pyromaniacs. (I don’t have to agree with a post in order to think it’s great!)Earlier in the week my relations with the guys at TeamPyro [...]

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Links for July 24, 2006

July 24, 2006

“There is no factor more important in our quest for godliness than the filling of the Holy Spirit.”
I wonder when this sermon will be available so we can find out exactly what Lig means by being filled with the Spirit . . .possibly not the same thing I do!
(tags: duncan preaching spirit)

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Expert Web Design Assistance Requested!

July 24, 2006

Sometimes I realise I am out of my depth with design issues. Today is one of those times! Quite apart from the picture problem, which seems to be something to do with my Internet provider, I now have a problem specific to Firefox.
This is what most people see in Internet Explorer:

This is what most people [...]

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Martyn Lloyd-Jones Monday: The Doctrine of Regeneration

July 24, 2006

“Create in me a clean heart, O God.” (Psalm 51:10).Today’s Lloyd-Jones quote is the December 30th entry of 365 daily selections from a devotional book featuring words from the Doctor and edited by Robert Backhouse. It was originally taken from the Lloyd-Jones’ book, Out of the Depths, and can be found on pages 71-72 of [...]

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Links for July 23, 2006

July 23, 2006

“Like Paul, we can and should love our Jewish neighbors, serve our Jewish neighbors, and there is even a place for becoming like our Jewish neighbors in some way. But when we become like them, we must become like them TO WIN THEM.”

Jollyblogger stops being nice about Rick Warren in this article in which he [...]

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Warnie Headlines and What Has Happened to del.icio.us?

July 23, 2006

This is what my blog is supposed to look like right now – a nice picture of two coffee cups to represent an interview, a couple of adds (including one for the best Bible software in the world), a few books, my own mug shot, and the new Warnie Winners headlines listing (which I [...]

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Links for July 22, 2006

July 22, 2006

Link Troll Catapults Original Pyro to World-Wide Fame.

So admits the original Pyro himself! Actually, he would have got there eventually, even without my help!!
(tags: blogspotting pyromaniacs warnie)

“The tithing issue is the pressing one as I work on my money study. Israel did it (although it looks like it was more like 23% than 10%). Should [...]

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