<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
	xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/"
	>

<channel>
	<title>adrianwarnock.com &#187; Unconditional Election</title>
	<atom:link href="http://adrianwarnock.com/category/doctrine/unconditional-election/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://adrianwarnock.com</link>
	<description></description>
	<lastBuildDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2012 21:56:42 +0000</lastBuildDate>
	<language>en</language>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1</generator>
		<item>
		<title>Jonathan Edwards on Unconditional Election</title>
		<link>http://adrianwarnock.com/2009/02/jonathan-edwards-on-unconditional/</link>
		<comments>http://adrianwarnock.com/2009/02/jonathan-edwards-on-unconditional/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 03:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>adrianwarnock</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Jonathan Edwards]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[misc]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Unconditional Election]]></category>

		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://adrianwarnock.com/2009/02/jonathan-edwards-on-unconditional-election/</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Jonathan Edwards masterfully argues that it is necessary that God determined that at least one individual would be saved, or else there would have been the risk that Jesus work would have been done in vain. The implication of this argument is of course that once you have accepted that at least one person was [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a class="post_image_link" href="http://adrianwarnock.com/2009/02/jonathan-edwards-on-unconditional/" title="Permanent link to Jonathan Edwards on Unconditional Election"><img class="post_image alignnone frame" src="http://cdn.adrianwarnock.com/wp/wp-content/media/jonathanedwards.jpg?65aa6a" width="200" height="229" alt="Post image for Jonathan Edwards on Unconditional Election" /></a>
</p><p>Jonathan Edwards masterfully argues that it is necessary that God determined that at least one individual would be saved, or else there would have been the risk that Jesus work would have been done in vain.  The implication of this argument is of course that once you have accepted that at least one person was chose effectually by God to be saved, it is surely easy to believe that all Chrisitans were in fact chosen by God before the foundation of the world without anything in us cause him to be pleased with us.</p>
<blockquote><p>If God ever determined in the general, that some of mankind should certainly be saved, and did not leave it altogether undetermined, whether ever so much as one soul of all mankind should believe in Christ, it must be that he determined that some particular persons should certainly believe in him. For it is certain, that if he has left it undetermined concerning this and that and the other person, whether ever he should believe or not, and so of every particular person in the world; then there is no necessity at all, that this or that or any particular person in the world should ever be saved by Christ, for matter of any determination of God&#8217;s. So that, though God sent his Son into the world, yet the matter was left altogether undetermined by God, whether ever any person should be saved by him; and there was all this ado about Christ&#8217;s birth, death, resurrection, ascension and sitting at God&#8217;s right hand, when it was not as yet determined whether he should ever redeem one soul, or have any mediatorial kingdom at all.  &#8211;  Jonathan Edwards [<strong>1722</strong>], <em><a href="http://edwards.yale.edu/archive?path=aHR0cDovL2Vkd2FyZHMueWFsZS5lZHUvY2dpLWJpbi9uZXdwaGlsby9uYXZpZ2F0ZS5wbD93amVvLjEy">The &#8220;Miscellanies&#8221;: (Entry Nos. a–z, aa–zz, 1–500) (WJE Online Vol. 13)</a></em> , Ed. Harry S. Stout, page 233-234</p></blockquote>
]]></content:encoded>
			<wfw:commentRss>http://adrianwarnock.com/2009/02/jonathan-edwards-on-unconditional/feed/</wfw:commentRss>
		<slash:comments>0</slash:comments>
		</item>
		<item>
		<title>SERMON &#8211; A Song Of Hope &#8211; Psalm 121</title>
		<link>http://adrianwarnock.com/2008/09/sermon-song-of-hope-psalm-121/</link>
		<comments>http://adrianwarnock.com/2008/09/sermon-song-of-hope-psalm-121/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 02:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>adrianwarnock</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[1 and 2 Corinthians]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Arminocalvinist Spectrum]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Calvinism]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Ephesians]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[God to Hope In - Attributes of God]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Hebrews]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Irresistable Grace]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Isaiah]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Limited Atonement]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Psalms]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Reformed Charismatic]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Romans]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Sermons]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Total Depravity]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Unconditional Election]]></category>

		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://adrianwarnock.com/2008/09/sermon-a-song-of-hope-psalm-121/</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[On the 24th of August, I preached a sermon at Jubilee during our summer series on some famous psalms. I took Psalm 121, which served as a starting point for me to share some of the most important planks of my personal doctrinal framework—a framework that has sustained me through hard times. As blogging around [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p>On the 24th of August, I preached a sermon at Jubilee during our summer series on some famous psalms. I took Psalm 121, which served as a starting point for me to share some of the most important planks of my personal doctrinal framework—a framework that has sustained me through hard times.</p>
<p>As blogging around here at least begins to return to normal—if there is such a thing at adrianwarnock.com—I thought I&#8217;d share both the <a href="http://cdn.adrianwarnock.com/wp/wp-content/media/2008/09/psalm121_AW.mp3">audio to download</a> and a condensed version of the message below. You can also listen right here:</p>
<p><center><embed name="audio_player_tiny_gray" pluginspage="http://www.macromedia.com/go/getflashplayer" align="middle" src="http://www.odeo.com/flash/audio_player_tiny_gray.swf" width="200" height="40" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" quality="high" allowscriptaccess="always" wmode="transparent" flashvars="audio_id=2040010&amp;valid_sample_rate=true&amp;external_url=http://jubilee-church.org/sermons08/psalm121_AW.mp3"></embed></center><br />Psalm 121 is <em>A Song of Hope</em> in a world without hope. Today we see how true it is that unbelievers are well described as “having no hope and without God in the world” (Ephesians 2:12).</p>
<p>Christians should be characterized by hope, and as a result, should live in such a way that brings up questions in other&#8217;s minds. “In your hearts honor Christ the Lord as holy, always being prepared to make a defense to anyone who asks you for a reason for the hope that is in you; yet do it with gentleness and respect . . .” (1 Peter 3:15).</p>
<p>The question is, how do we obtain such a hope and how do we live in the good of it?</p>
<p><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Hope requires a biblical outlook</span> — You will not find real hope anywhere else, other than in the Bible, where we find help to live, help to rescue us, help to have hope.</p>
<p><strong>Hope requires a lifted head</strong> — we must first be lowered, and God graciously sends trouble our way to teach us we cannot help ourselves.</p>
<p>Despair of self. Self-help is no help at all. Our solution is not found on earth. It’s found in heaven. Many people expect that their problem is based around what they’re experiencing. And they say something like this, “If only I could find a husband or a wife, then I’d be okay.” Or, “If only I had a different husband or wife, then I’d be okay.” Or, “If only God changed him, then I’d be okay.” Or, “Perhaps I need a new job, then I’d be okay.” “I need to be healed, then I’d be okay.” All of those things are secondary—our help comes from heaven. Our help comes from God. For you to have hope, you have to lift your head. You have to look up. And there’s something about the body language involved in doing that—looking up and praying with your head raised to God, saying, “Help me!”</p>
<p>Many people think Christianity is “Do this! Do that!” Rules. “If I just try harder, I can please God.” None of that counts for anything. There is nothing you can do to make God happy with you in your own strength—nothing! You really are helpless. You really are hopeless. You’re weak, I’m weak. We’re all the same. Don’t we say it sometimes? “I just couldn’t help myself.” Have you ever said that? “I’m so sorry for what I just did to you to hurt you, to upset you. I just couldn’t help myself,” you say. There’s never a truer word said than that. </p>
<p>“The preacher&#8217;s work is to throw sinners down in utter helplessness that they may be compelled to look up to Him who alone can help them” (<a href="http://www.spurgeon.org/misc/sw01.htm">Spurgeon</a>).</p>
<p><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Hope requires a God who is in control —</span> a God who really is in control and a God who can therefore help us. It’s very important that we understand that. Help comes from God, not from other people. Others can help you a bit, but the way in which they’ll help you is simply this: by pointing you to God and by strengthening you in God.</p>
<p>For example, in 1 Samuel 23:16 — &#8220;Jonathan strengthened David’s hand in God.&#8221;</p>
<p>Any leader will let you down because he is not God. He can’t be there all the time. You’ll try and ring him one day and his phone will be switched off or engaged. You&#8217;ll find that God’s phone is never switched off.</p>
<p>But it must be the right sort of God who we can believe in. Some people just say, “Well, I believe in God. Isn’t that enough?” No, we need to understand some things about God. It’s no good, for example, if God is as clueless as the rest of us, is it really? And some people believe in a God like that. But it’s not true. God is the God of all comfort. &#8220;He comforts us in all our troubles so that we can comfort others who are suffering afflictions with the comfort with which we ourselves have been comforted by God.&#8221; ( 1 Corinthians 1)</p>
<p>This is God’s description of himself in Isaiah 46: <span style="FONT-STYLE: italic">“I am God.” </span>And YOU are not, by the way. He is, but you’re not. And neither am I. <span style="FONT-STYLE: italic">“I am God and there is no other. I am God and there is none like me. Declaring the end from the beginning.” </span>In other words, he knows the end of time from the very beginning of time. He knows everything that will ever happen. <span style="FONT-STYLE: italic">&#8220;And from ancient times, things not yet done, saying this, “My counsel shall stand and I will accomplish all my purposes. I have spoken and I will bring it to pass. I have purposed and I will do it.</span>”</p>
<p>That’s the God we worship. There are some people who say that God is surprised by things. They say, well, you know, there are some things that are unknowable and that until something happens, even God doesn’t know what will happen. I’m sorry. That’s not the God of the Bible. The God of the Bible knows the end from the beginning. He’s not surprised by anything. And it’s so important because when you’re counseling somebody, you have to bring them to <em>that</em> God, not to some kind of weak God who is surprised. I once heard of a situation—this is a true story apparently, and I think I read it in a book somewhere. (If anyone remembers the reference for this, I would appreciate knowing that.) A lovely young lady married a guy who was also a Christian (they were both Christians). Everything looked fine. And then after a while this guy basically did the dirty on her and went off with somebody else and the relationship broke up and they got divorced. And this woman’s pastor (shame on him) said this: “Well, when God guided you to that marriage, he had no more idea than you did what would happen. He was as surprised and as shocked and as hurt and as disappointed as you by what happened.” Now that might seem cute, but it doesn’t give me any hope. Does it give you hope? If God was like that, I think I’d rather not be a Christian. No, God is not like that. He knows the end from the beginning. He knows what will happen. He will accomplish all his purposes. There is no plan B with God.</p>
<p>God is NOT surprised by anything!</p>
<p><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Hope requires a God who is loving — </span>he’s the God who cares for you. If God was all-sovereign and all-powerful and all-knowing, but actually was a bit of an evil, capricious God who hated you, then well, the world would not be a very good place, would it?</p>
<p>But the Bible is very clear. It says that God <span style="FONT-STYLE: italic">is</span> love (1 John 4:16).</p>
<p>Romans 5:8 says, “But God shows his love for us in this; that while we were still sinners Christ died for us.” So if Jesus died for us, if he would come from heaven to earth, live as a man, the great invincible God becoming a little baby and then living as a man, and then dying a cruel death in our place that we might know God, do you not think that this demonstrates that he loves us?</p>
<p>Paul makes this argument in Romans 8:32 when he says, “He who did not spare his own son, but gave him up for us all, how will he not also with him graciously give us all things?” If we’re coming to God and say, “Oh, well, God, you know. I’m not sure if you really love me or not,” we’re making God into a liar and we’re just despising the cross. Jesus loved us enough to die for us. That should be enough to give us hope. Hope that this sovereign God is for you, and that this God is in control and knows the future; that he will make sure things map out for your good.</p>
<p>Romans 8 continues: &#8220;We know that for those who love God all things work together for good&#8221; (verse 28). So if you love God, God will work out everything for your good.</p>
<p>He keeps you. He will not let your foot be moved. It says “He keeps you” six times in this psalm. He’s your keeper. He’s your watchman. He watches over you. He doesn’t sleep.</p>
<p><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Hope requires a God-centered gospel — s</span>ome people say, “Well, you know, God is lucky to have me.&#8221; There is a sense in which God is knocking at the door. But people can say it sometimes as though Jesus is the needy one; as if he’s a bit lonely and he needs another worshipper or feels insecure or needs a relationship or needs his ego boosted a bit.  No, God isn’t like that. God is the eternal one who out of his self-sufficiency and his joy of being eternally one with the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, eternally a community, lavishes love on us through grace. Through unmerited favor. Through his all-sufficiency.</p>
<p>There are five aspects of the gospel that I think give us a stable foundation. It says in this psalm that God keeps our foot from being moved. It also says in another psalm that God put our foot on a rock. People sometimes call these five points the five points of Calvinism. I would rather just say they’re the five points of a stable view of the gospel, which enables us to have hope. Sometimes people use these points under the acronym TULIP. So if you like acronyms, you can use TULIP to help you remember them.</p>
<p>But sometimes our Christianity is like another flower. I don’t know if, in other countries, people do this, but English children very often find a nice daisy in the lawn, pick it, and usually thinking about a boyfriend or girlfriend, they remove one petal at a time. “He loves me, he loves me not, he loves me, he loves me not, he loves me, he loves me not. Oh no! He loves me not!”</p>
<p>Some of us approach God like that — if I’m doing well, God loves me. If I’ve just sinned, he doesn’t love me anymore. If I make a commitment to him and follow him, then he’ll love me. But if I backslide, then he won’t love me anymore and I won’t be a Christian anymore. I don’t believe that gives us a stable foundation for hope. So what are these five points? I’ll go through them quite quickly.</p>
<p><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">T — </span><strong>Total Depravity of Man</strong><br />Now most people actually have very little problem believing this. I think there are very few Christians who don’t believe this. There are a few who say, “Oh no, people are basically good.” But I don’t think any of them are parents. I’ve got a 16 month old child. We don’t have to train him to hit his brother and sister; to steal from his brother and sister; to scream if we give his brother and sister something and don&#8217;t give it to him. And he has already learned how to bite. He’s 16 months! But people say that human beings are born good. They’re not born good. They’re born with a sinful nature. We are born with a bias towards sin, as the Puritans used to say. So basically, if you don’t believe in the total depravity of man, if you don’t believe that we have a sinful nature, then I would suggest that you borrow a two year old for an hour. That’s all you need.</p>
<p>But let’s look at the Scriptures. The Scripture is what we stand on. The Scripture is very clear about this in Ephesians 2: “And you were dead in trespasses and sins . . .” Dead people can’t help themselves. If we’re dead without Christ, we need him to make us alive.</p>
<p><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">U — Unconditional Election</span><br />In other words, God chooses us; we don’t choose him. Ephesians 1:4—he chose us in him before the foundation of the world that we should be holy and blameless before him. John 15:16—You did not choose me (says Jesus) but I chose you. Terry Virgo likes to say he imagines somebody in the congregation saying, “Hang on. But haven’t I got a free will?” And Terry says this, “Yeah, but God’s is freer.” The truth is this: actually we do have a free will, but we all freely choose to reject God. It’s only as God intervenes and woos us and changes our hearts and sends out his grace on us that we actually can be saved.</p>
<p><strong>L — Limited Atonement</strong><br />This is one that causes a bit of controversy and a lot of disagreement, but it&#8217;s mostly about a misunderstanding. I think all Christians will agree with two things about this. The first is this—that everything that Jesus did on the cross, the good of it, the full goodness of it, the eternal value of it, only gets applied to those who are Christians. Obviously, in order to benefit from Jesus’s death, you need to be a Christian, so in that sense it is a limited atonement. It is especially for the believer. It is especially for us. Jesus said this, “He laid down his life for his friends” (John 15:13). There’s a sense in which the death of Jesus was specific to certain individuals.</p>
<p>The second thing that we all can agree on is this: that actually Jesus’ death does have some benefit to everybody, and that the offer of the gospel is available to everybody as well. And it’s an honest gospel that says that if you are willing to repent of your sins and follow God, then you will be saved. So I think we need to be very careful in what we say about this. 1 Timothy 4:10 to me, sums this up, “We have set our hope on the living God who is the Savior of all people, and especially of those who believe.” So the very fact that the world is sustained at all and that Jesus didn’t just wipe it out the second that somebody first sinned is because of Jesus’s death. So everybody lives in the good of the cross all the time actually, and the offer of the gospel is a genuine offer to everybody, but the full benefits of the cross are only ever applied to those who are truly saved. I think sometimes this one is expressed in a way in which I would not agree.</p>
<p><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">I — Irresistible Grace</span><br />Jesus said “No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him. And I will raise him up on the last day” (John 6:44). When God sets his mind on you, when God sets his grace on you, your resistance is futile. You can run, but you can’t hide. And there may be some of you reading this who have been running. You’ve been fighting. And God is saying, “Stop fighting. I’m here. Now is the time to surrender.&#8221;</p>
<p><strong>P — Perseverance of the Saints</strong><br />I prefer to state it in this way: the persistence of God. “And this is the will of him who sent me, that I should lose nothing of all that he has given me, but raise it up on the last day. For this is the will of my Father, that everyone who looks on the Son and believes in him should have eternal life, and I will raise him up on the last day” (John 6:39-50).</p>
<p>Now, we all know people who appeared to be Christians and drifted away. The thing is this—it is appointed for man to die once and after that comes judgment (Hebrews 9:27). I believe the balance of Scripture is very clear on this, that there are actually three possible verdicts on that day.</p>
<p>The first verdict is this—You’re not a Christian; you never were a Christian, and that means an eternity without God. It means hell. We do believe in hell. That’s one verdict. The second verdict is what I call a “well done” Christian. What I mean is this. When God looks at you and says, “Well done, good and faithful servant. You’ve followed me. You’ve served me. I’m pleased with what you’ve done.&#8221; And that’s what I pray for each of us. The third possible verdict is one that I call the “skin of the teeth” Christian. 1 Corinthians 3 talks about it like this: &#8220;As one saved through fire.&#8221; All your good works get burned up, but somehow, because of God’s grace, you somehow scrape in.</p>
<p>Now I would say that the difference between the slightly &#8220;scraping in&#8221; Christian and the person who is not a Christian at all is not one that we can sometimes easily discern. And that’s why we need to make sure really, brothers and sisters, that we are following after God. Because we don’t want to be those who miss it.</p>
<p>So, for those who have appeared to backslide, it may be that they were never Christians. It may be that actually they will be among that “skin of the teeth” brigade, or it may be actually—and this is what we should pray—that God will bring them back because God is in the business of restoring people. God is in the business of bringing people back, people we thought would never ever do it. And God says, “No. I will do it. I will do it. I will bring them back. I will complete the work I started.” And that’s the way to pray. Say, “God, you promised that you would complete the work that you started. I remember what you did in that person . . .”</p>
<p>Hebrews 3:14 actually says something interesting about this idea of perseverance. Because it really isn’t just the idea of “once saved, always saved” in a very simplistic way. You think if you go forward at a crusade that’s it. No! What it’s saying is that we’re expecting God to preserve our faith and keep us until the end. It says this in Hebrews 3:14—For we have come to share in Christ (and that’s the past tense—it has happened to us in the past) if indeed we hold our original confidence firm to the end.” So we should expect that God will sustain us to the end, and at the end of our lives, to be able to look back on a lifetime of trusting God.</p>
<p>I don’t want any of us to drift away. Please don’t play fast and loose with God because he’s not mocked. It is appointed once for man to die and afterwards to face judgment.</p>
<p><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Hope requires eternal security, but it is not passive — </span>we don’t just say, “Oh well. I’m okay now. Let me sit back and put my feet up and coast to heaven.” 2 Peter 1:3—His divine power has given us everything we need for life and godliness through our knowledge of him, who called us by his own glory and goodness. Therefore my brothers, be all the more eager to make your calling and election sure. But if you do these things, you will never fall. And you will receive a rich welcome into the eternal kingdom of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ.&#8221; Why not aim for a rich welcome?</p>
<p><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Hope also requires a resurrection — </span>Paul puts it this way in 1 Corinthians 15:19 where he says, “If in this life only we have hoped in Christ we are of all people most to be pitied.” Because actually, eventually it will seem as if God has let us down because we’ll die and evil will, in fact, touch us. Well, the truth is this, eternally these words are always true— God <span style="FONT-STYLE: italic">will</span> keep our lives. God <span style="FONT-STYLE: italic">will</span> keep evil from ultimately harming us. There is a glorious day coming. Jesus promised, “In this world you will have trouble.&#8221; I don’t see very many people naming and claiming that promise! And Jesus does keep his promises. But he also said this: “Take heart. I have overcome the world” (John 16:33).</p>
<p>So we need to know this—death is coming. We can’t stop it. We can fight it and we can try to delay it, but we must remember that the timing is ultimately in God’s hands. But it’s also okay to walk in faith and obedience, trying to follow God faithfully, because actually, even under the New Testament, God does sometimes terminate somebody’s life early. Look at Ananias and Sapphira. We can pray for healing, and rightly so when someone gets sick. We can eat in a healthy manner. We can try to keep that weight down. We can stop smoking. It’s like playing Russian roulette with your life. Three holes, one bullet—a &#8220;one in three&#8221; chance of dying early—not a good idea. We can exercise. We can see doctors. But the point is this. Our hope goes beyond the grave because death is coming, even if we do all those things.</p>
<p>One day we will see him face-to-face. And what does that say? It tells me that we will still have a face. It’s not that we’re going to be some sort of ethereal spirit floating in heaven. We will know each other. We will be able to recognize each other. We have a hope that goes beyond the grave, And we will meet our departed brothers and sisters again one day. We will <span style="FONT-STYLE: italic">see</span> them. And together we will see God.</p>
<p>Notice this: it says that he will keep our life, and he will also keep our going out and coming in. To me, that’s a physical thing. You don’t go out and come in if you’re a spirit floating ethereally, not even knowing if you’re you. You will be <span style="FONT-STYLE: italic">you</span>. Hope requires that there is a resurrection. Hope requires that there is eternal security, and that God will keep us, but it’s not passive in that knowledge. Hope requires that God sends his gospel. Hope requires a God who is loving. Hope requires a God who is in control. Hope requires a lifted head. Hope requires a biblical outlook.</p>
<p><strong>Hope requires an alert God</strong>. It requires a God who is keeping us and a God who is not sleeping. God never sleeps so that you can sleep. He’s watching over you. When you’re in the desert and you’re worried about wild animals coming to eat you, one of you needs to stay awake. You don’t all need to stay awake. You just need one to stay awake. One that’s trustworthy. God would say this to you—&#8221;I am trustworthy. Cast your anxieties on me. Don&#8217;t you realize that I care for you, and that I don&#8217;t sleep so that you can sleep?&#8221;</p>
<p>God doesn’t sleep when somebody dies. He doesn’t sleep when somebody gets news that they may die. And he doesn’t sleep when somebody gets news that someone they love may die. He’s never asleep. He is aware of all those things and he can meet you in all those settings. He is your keeper. He will protect you through all those things.</p>
<p>God wasn’t sleeping when your name came up in the tally in heaven as to who’s going to get married and who’s not, and how we’re going to sort that out. You weren’t one he missed. He’s controlling your life. He is guiding your steps. And he will guide you, either to the perfect mate or to actually feeling content in the midst of your situation.</p>
<p>We think we can hide our sin from God. We’re fools. We think the darkness will hide it. Maybe we think that if we come out at night we can do certain things that no one else will see, and therefore sometimes God won’t see. But he never sleeps. He doesn’t slumber. He sees everything you&#8217;ve ever done, everything you’ve ever said, and everything you’ve ever thought.</p>
<p>He didn’t see all these things with a view to condemning you, saying you’re useless, and telling you deserve hell (although that’s true). He did it so that you might be forgiven. And he wants to highlight that to you right now. Your sin is worse than you think it is. But this is also true—God is better than you think he is, and he’s more gracious than you think he is. He chose David, an adulterer and a murderer, and said, “This is a man after my own heart.”</p>
<p>God can take the shame that you feel, the hurt you may feel, the dirtiness you feel. Jesus carried our shame on the cross that you might be full of hope, that you might be able to stand firm before God, aware of him, and fully in love with Jesus, fully secure in hope.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
			<wfw:commentRss>http://adrianwarnock.com/2008/09/sermon-song-of-hope-psalm-121/feed/</wfw:commentRss>
		<slash:comments>0</slash:comments>
<enclosure url="http://jubilee-church.org/sermons08/psalm121_AW.mp3" length="19087816" type="audio/mpeg" />
<enclosure url="http://cdn.adrianwarnock.com/wp/wp-content/media/2008/09/psalm121_AW.mp3" length="19087816" type="audio/mpeg" />
		</item>
		<item>
		<title>Credit God, Blame Man, Or Why Double Predestination is Error &#8211; Charles Simeon</title>
		<link>http://adrianwarnock.com/2007/08/credit-god-blame-man-or-why-double/</link>
		<comments>http://adrianwarnock.com/2007/08/credit-god-blame-man-or-why-double/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2007 23:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>adrianwarnock</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Arminocalvinist Spectrum]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Calvinism]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Charles Simeon]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Genesis]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Leviticus]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Romans]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Total Depravity]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Unconditional Election]]></category>

		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://adrianwarnock.com/2007/08/credit-god-blame-man-or-why-double-predestination-is-error-charles-simeon/</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Last week, as you may know, I preached on Jacob. During my preparation I was, not surprisingly, taken once more to the glorious doctrines of grace—the so-called &#8220;TULIP.&#8221; Jacob is used in Romans as a supreme example of God&#8217;s free grace. This post is part of a mini-series highlighting quotes from others on each of [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p><i>Last week, as you may know, <a href="http://adrianwarnock.com/2007/08/sermon-jacob-missional-rebel.htm">I preached on Jacob</a>. During my preparation I was, not surprisingly, taken once more to the glorious doctrines of grace—the so-called &#8220;<a href="http://adrianwarnock.com/2004/12/its-all-about-you-jesuscalvinism-and.htm">TULIP</a>.&#8221; Jacob is used in Romans as a supreme example of God&#8217;s free grace.</p>
<p>This post is part of a mini-series highlighting quotes from others on each of these five points of Calvinism. It will also provide links to some old posts I wrote on Calvinism. We began the series with a quote that claims the <a href="http://adrianwarnock.com/2007/08/how-total-depravity-helps-your-marriage.htm">doctrine of total depravity helps your marriage</a>.</i></p>
<p>To some degree the doctrines of grace, or rather one aspect of them, <a href="http://adrianwarnock.com/2004/11/more-on-unconditional-election-double.htm">Unconditional Election</a>, came up in my sermon last week (although I didn&#8217;t use the words). One quote I have been meaning to share with you, but the baptism debate got in the way, has been the following from Simeon, whose works are now available from <a href="http://adrianwarnock.com/2006/07/25-off-logos-bible-software-by.htm">Logos Bible Software</a>.</p>
<p><a href="http://adrianwarnock.com/2004/11/more-on-unconditional-election-double.htm">Like Spurgeon and myself</a>, Simeon is adamant that there is no such thing as what some call &#8220;double-predestination.&#8221; Thus, people are wholly to blame for their own damnation, while God is wholly credited with saving us. God does not foreordain that some go to hell in the same way he foreordains that some will be saved. This might sound illogical, but it is, I believe, biblical and a great mystery we cannot fully fathom.</p>
<p>Charles Simeon puts it like this in a quote that should whet your appetite for the rest of his works, which are proving to me to be as useful as Spurgeon&#8217;s:<br />
<blockquote><a href="http://www.anglicanlibrary.org/simeon/index.htm"><img hspace="20" vspace="20" align="right" src="http://cdn.adrianwarnock.com/wp/wp-content/media/2007/08/Simeon-717891.jpg?65aa6a"></a>&#8220;If, as the Apostle says, &#8216;there is a remnant according to the election of grace,&#8217; we are ready to suppose that those who are not of that number are not accountable for their sins, and that their final ruin is to be imputed rather to God’s decrees than to their own fault. But this is a perversion of the doctrine. It is a consequence which our proud reason is prone to draw from the decrees of God: but it is a consequence which the inspired volume totally disavows. There is not in the whole sacred writings one single word that fairly admits of such a construction. The glory of man’s salvation is invariably ascribed to the free, the sovereign, the efficacious grace of God: but the condemnation of men is invariably charged upon their own wilful sins and obstinate impenitence. If, because we know not how to reconcile these things, men will controvert and deny them, we shall content ourselves with the answer which St. Paul himself made to all such cavillers and objectors; &#8216;Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God?&#8217; And if neither the truth nor the authority of God will awe them into submission, we can only say with the fore-mentioned apostle, &#8216;If any man be ignorant, let him be ignorant.&#8217; As for those, if such are to be found, who acknowledge the sovereignty of God, and take occasion from it to live in sin, we would warn them with all possible earnestness to cease from their fatal delusions. In comparison of such characters, the people who deny the sovereignty of God are innocent. We believe there are many persons in other respects excellent, who, from not being able to separate the idea of absolute reprobation from the doctrine of unconditional election, are led to reject both together: but what excellence can he have, who &#8216;turns the very grace of God into licentiousness,&#8217; and &#8216;continues in sin that grace may abound?&#8217; A man that can justify such a procedure, is beyond the reach of argument: we must leave him, as St. Paul does, with that awful warning, &#8216;His damnation is just.&#8217;&#8221;</p>
<p>Simeon, Charles: <em>Horae Homileticae Vol. 1: Genesis to Leviticus</em>. London, 1832-63, S. 210</p></blockquote>
]]></content:encoded>
			<wfw:commentRss>http://adrianwarnock.com/2007/08/credit-god-blame-man-or-why-double/feed/</wfw:commentRss>
		<slash:comments>14</slash:comments>
		</item>
		<item>
		<title>SERMON &#8211; Jacob, the Missional Rebel</title>
		<link>http://adrianwarnock.com/2007/08/sermon-jacob-missional-rebel/</link>
		<comments>http://adrianwarnock.com/2007/08/sermon-jacob-missional-rebel/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 04:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>adrianwarnock</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Arminocalvinist Spectrum]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Genesis]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Godly Attitudes]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Gospel]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Isaiah]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Romans]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Sermons]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Unconditional Election]]></category>

		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://adrianwarnock.com/2007/08/sermon-jacob-the-missional-rebel/</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[I preached the following sermon at Jubilee Church, London yesterday. You can read the notes, download the audio, or listen to it right here: HEROES—At the outset I should warn you that Jacob is not your typical biblical hero. We often go to the Bible to learn about how to behave. We want to read [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><div>I preached the following sermon at <a href="http://www.jubilee-church.org/">Jubilee Church, London</a> yesterday. You can read the notes, <a href="http://cdn.adrianwarnock.com/wp/wp-content/media/2007/08/mission_god_jacob_AW.mp3">download the audio</a>, or listen to it right here:</p>
<p><center><br /><embed name="audio_player_tiny_gray" pluginspage="http://www.macromedia.com/go/getflashplayer" align="middle" src="http://www.odeo.com/flash/audio_player_tiny_gray.swf" width="200" height="40" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" flashvars="audio_id=2040010&#038;valid_sample_rate=true&amp;external_url=http://jubilee-church.org/sermons07/mission_god_jacob_AW.mp3" wmode="transparent" allowscriptaccess="always" quality="high"></embed></center></p>
<p>HEROES—At the outset I should warn you that Jacob is not your typical biblical hero. We often go to the Bible to learn about how to behave. We want to read about great men of God who we can model ourselves after. We want to learn how to behave, how to be a good father, a good husband. Jacob is not that kind of hero. Actually it is fair to say that none of the biblical heroes are without flaws. Jacob, I am sorry to say, had many flaws. He was not a good husband. He was not a good father. In fact, there is very little that we can positively learn from the way he lived his life. He constantly made mistakes. Initially, I wondered why this story was even in the Bible:
<ol>
<li>Because it is TRUE—an evidence for the Bible’s truthfulness we often forget is the terrible flaws of its heroes. No other nation on earth describes its founder in such unsavory terms.</p>
<p>
<li>It is there to teach us a message—possibly one of the hardest messages we come across in the whole of Scripture.</li>
</ol>
<p>Romans 9:13 <em>&#8220;. . . when Rebekah had conceived children by one man, our forefather Isaac, though they were not yet born and had done nothing either good or bad—in order that God&#8217;s purpose of election might continue, not because of works but because of him who calls—she was told, “The older will serve the younger.” As it is written, “Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated.”</em></p>
<p>I guarantee that you will have all kinds of questions about that verse; I know I do But the life of Jacob shows us that what the Apostle Paul says in Romans is true —God chose him not because of anything in him, but because he chose him. God&#8217;s love for Jacob is so great that in comparison it is as though he hates Esau.</p>
<p>We have to ask ourselves a simple question: If we are a Christian, is it because of something in us or is it because of something God has done for us? When we look at an unbeliever, do we feel superior to them, or does it make us tremble to think that God could also have passed us by and left us in the mess we have made of our lives?</p>
<p>We might say, “Haven&#8217;t I got free will? Yes, but God’s is freer!” (Terry Virgo)</p>
<p>God is the initiator. He can never be forced to act. He is sovereign and we must remember—<strong>HE</strong> <strong>IS GOD AND WE ARE NOT!</strong></p>
<p><a href="http://www.desiringgod.org/ResourceLibrary/Sermons/ByDate/1987/609_The_Greatness_of_Gods_Electing_Love">John Piper</a> says it in this way, imagining what God might have said to Jacob:<br />
<blockquote>&#8220;I have loved you with free, sovereign, unconditional, electing love; that is how I have loved you.
<ul>
<li><a href="http://cdn.adrianwarnock.com/wp/wp-content/media/2007/08/John-Piper-(1)-794105.jpg?65aa6a"><img hspace="20" vspace="20" align="right" src="http://cdn.adrianwarnock.com/wp/wp-content/media/2007/08/John-Piper-(1)-794103.jpg?65aa6a"></a>My love for you is electing love because I chose you for myself above your brother Esau.</p>
<li>My love for you is unconditional love because I chose you before you had done anything good or evil—before you had met any conditions—while you were still in your mother&#8217;s womb (Genesis 25:24).
<li>My love for you is sovereign love because I was under no constraint to love you; I was not forced or coerced; I was totally in charge when I set my love upon you.
<li>And my love for you is free because it&#8217;s the overflow of my infinite grace that can never be bought.&#8221;</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>&#8220;. . . Why do I tell you this?</strong>
<ul>
<li>To humble you.</p>
<li>To take away your presumption.
<li>To remove every ground of boasting in yourself.
<li>To cut the nerve of pride that boasts over Esau as though your salvation were owing to anything in you.
<li>To put to naught the cavalier sense of self-reliance that lets you dally in my presence as though you were an equal partner in this affair.
<li>To make you tremble with tears of joy that you belong to God.”</li>
</ul>
</blockquote>
<p>The story of Jacob is the story of God&#8217;s unstoppable mission. Nothing Jacob can do will stop God&#8217;s determination to bless him. It’s not about Jacob, it’s about God.</p>
<p>Actually that can be very encouraging for us. As I have been spending time getting to know Jacob, I have been encouraged. Here is a man who makes me feel like saying, If God can use him, perhaps he can use me too!</p>
<p>We see in the life of Jacob that it really is not all about him. We often say in this church that it’s “all about Jesus.” Jacob&#8217;s life truly was “all about Jesus.” It was all about a plan that God had set in motion to call a people to himself. Jacob’s grandfather had received promises. Despite being a man of faith—the father of faith—he hadn’t really founded a nation. Isaac, Abraham&#8217;s son, had repeated many of his father’s mistakes (passing off his wife as his sister) and had also not fathered a nation.</p>
<p>Jacob was an “expressive” leader, but he was not always received; he lived in the future, but tried to help God out. He got angry; he told people what to do; he wasn’t reserved. But somehow he was charming. He had strong reactions.</p>
<p>We can look at <strong>JACOB’S CHARACTER</strong> by examining some of the words he said.</p>
<p>Jacob’s first recorded words: “Sell me your birthright now.” (Genesis 25:31). And also verse 33: “Swear to me now.” He steals from and blackmails his brother, and then cheats him again.</p>
<p>“Behold, my brother Esau is a hairy man, and I am a smooth man. Perhaps my father will feel me, and I shall seem to be mocking him and bring a curse upon myself and not a blessing.” (Genesis 27:11). Not “But mum, that would be wrong!” and then lies to his own dad and steals from his brother.</p>
<p>We then see Jacob, whose name means “grabber” or “supplanter” or basically “thief” running away. When God appears to him, we might expect God to punish him, maybe strike him dead.</p>
<p>“He was in disgrace, had incurred the bitter hatred of his only brother, and had shown himself a thief, liar, and scheming, mercenary wretch.” (McMillin, Bib Sac Volume 91 [1934]: Jacob At Penuel).</p>
<p>But by his grace, God instead reaffirms his promise to bless him. <strong>God makes an unconditional promise to an unreliable man.</strong></p>
<p>Genesis 28:13-15: “I am the Lord, the God of Abraham your father and the God of Isaac. The land on which you lie I will give to you and to your offspring. Your offspring shall be like the dust of the earth, and you shall spread abroad to the west and to the east and to the north and to the south, and in you and your offspring shall all the families of the earth be blessed. Behold, I am with you and will keep you wherever you go, and will bring you back to this land. For I will not leave you until I have done what I have promised you.”</p>
<p><strong>JACOB’S RESPONSE</strong> was to make God a conditional promise!</p>
<p>“If God will be with me and will keep me in this way that I go, and will give me bread to eat and clothing to wear, so that I come again to my father&#8217;s house in peace, then the Lord shall be my God . . . .”</p>
<p>He would have made a good 20th century Christian—if God will look after me, I will follow him. Too often our faith is about what we can get out of God rather than how we can serve him.</p>
<p>We then see that <strong>when he meets the shepherds of Laban, he immediately begins to boss them around and tell them what to do!</strong></p>
<p>He then <strong>BUYS</strong> his wife! “I will serve you seven years for your younger daughter Rachel.”</p>
<p>Then he was tricked himself as he and Laban try to outdo each other in trickery.</p>
<p>He was a terrible husband (Genesis 29:30-31) “So Jacob went in to Rachel also, and he loved Rachel more than Leah, and served Laban for another seven years. When the Lord saw that Leah was hated, he opened her womb, but Rachel was barren.”</p>
<p><strong>He was incredibly insensitive.</strong> “Jacob&#8217;s anger was kindled against Rachel, and he said, “Am I in the place of God, who has withheld from you the fruit of the womb?” (Genesis 30:2)</p>
<p>He even let himself be bought for the night.</p>
<p><strong>He had a RIGHTS BASED approach to life.</strong> He argued with Laban about who had tricked each other the most. Christianity is not a rights-based religion. Instead, it is about our responsibility.</p>
<p>Finally, having left Laban and heading back to an uncertain meeting with Esau, he humbles himself. His prayer is finally something we can copy!</p>
<p>Genesis 32:9-12 “And Jacob said, “O God of my father Abraham and God of my father Isaac, O Lord who said to me, ‘Return to your country and to your kindred, that I may do you good,’ I am not worthy of the least of all the deeds of steadfast love and all the faithfulness that you have shown to your servant, for with only my staff I crossed this Jordan, and now I have become two camps. Please deliver me from the hand of my brother, from the hand of Esau, for I fear him, that he may come and attack me, the mothers with the children. But you said, ‘I will surely do you good, and make your offspring as the sand of the sea, which cannot be numbered for multitude.’”</p>
<p>God never could prevail against one who used the weapons of “weeping” and “supplication.” (McMillin)</p>
<p>Jacob&#8217;s wrestling with God was in some ways reminiscent of his life—he had been one who fought with God and man. God doesn&#8217;t get rid of the fighting spirit, but directs it appropriately, and even names his people “one who struggles with God.” Are WE those who struggle with God?</p>
<p>“I will not let you go unless you bless me.” (Genesis 32:26)</p>
<p>“For I have seen God face to face, and yet my life has been delivered.” (Genesis 32:31)</p>
<p>Why delivered? It was Jesus who would save him and allow him to be hidden in his brother, not as a deception, but by the will of the father, and not so that he remained unchanged, but that he would be changed by being united with Christ. In fact, he was changed.</p>
<p>God made him say and own his name one more time before it could be wiped away. This is what God wants us to do. It’s not “I had a bad father; he loved my brother, Esau, not me&#8221; or even “I am struggling with a problem.” NO . . . it was “I am a deceiver, I am a cheat, I am selfish. I am in need of you. I need your blessing, Lord. I have messed up my life, but you keep blessing me.”</p>
<p>Actually lots of so-called &#8220;fighters&#8221; are as fearful and weak underneath as we later realize Jacob was. We are just better at hiding it! Fear leads some to be timid, and others to put a brave face on things.</p>
<p><strong>GOD OPPOSES THE PROUD BUT GIVES GRACE TO THE HUMBLE.</strong> (James 4:6)</p>
<p>God does take on fighters sometimes. He certainly isn’t frightened of them. If, like me, you are a bit of a fighter by nature, then know that if God takes you on, it might be a painful process. He will bring you low. He will take the brash over-confidence of youth and strip it away like he did with Jacob. As an older man he is almost quite timid, frightened of Esau. Then when God gets you to a timid, dependent state, he will cause you to rise up again—this time in HIS STRENGTH rather than your own, acknowledging HIM as King, and this time because ONE MAN PLUS GOD is the majority. No one will be able to fight against you. Why would you go on fighting against people and God? Why not surrender to the KING and let him lead you to fight on HIS side?</p>
<p><strong>GOD IS GOD AND WE ARE NOT!</strong></p>
<p>Finally became humble. Then he humbles himself with his brother, and is honored for his faith in passing on the blessing at the end of his life.</p>
<p>“The God before whom my fathers Abraham and Isaac walked, the God who has been my shepherd all my life long to this day, the angel who has redeemed me from all evil, bless the boys; and in them let my name be carried on, and the name of my fathers Abraham and Isaac; and let them grow into a multitude in the midst of the earth.” (Genesis 48:15-16)</p>
<p>I love the way Isaiah 41 describes this way of God handling us:<br />
<blockquote>But you, Israel, my servant,<br />Jacob, whom I have chosen,<br />the offspring of Abraham, my friend;<br />you whom I took from the ends of the earth,<br />and called from its farthest corners,<br />saying to you, “You are my servant,<br />I have chosen you and not cast you off”;<br />fear not, for I am with you;<br />be not dismayed, for I am your God;<br />I will strengthen you, I will help you,<br />I will uphold you with my righteous right hand . . .<br />Fear not, you worm Jacob,<br />you men of Israel!<br />I am the one who helps you, declares the Lord;<br />your Redeemer is the Holy One of Israel.<br />Behold, I make of you a threshing sledge,<br />new, sharp, and having teeth;<br />you shall thresh the mountains and crush them,<br />and you shall make the hills like chaff;<br />you shall winnow them, and the wind shall carry them away,<br />and the tempest shall scatter them.<br />And you shall rejoice in the Lord;<br />in the Holy One of Israel you shall glory.</p></blockquote>
<p>To become a valiant warrior for God we must first surrender to him and recognize we are “a worm.” Some of us have issues we need to resolve with God today.</p>
<p>Illustration of my debate with myself about getting up to go to the prayer meeting. You know what the outcome of this debate is going to be—give up the struggle and walk with God today! </p></div>
]]></content:encoded>
			<wfw:commentRss>http://adrianwarnock.com/2007/08/sermon-jacob-missional-rebel/feed/</wfw:commentRss>
		<slash:comments>1</slash:comments>
<enclosure url="http://jubilee-church.org/sermons07/mission_god_jacob_AW.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg" />
<enclosure url="http://cdn.adrianwarnock.com/wp/wp-content/media/2007/08/mission_god_jacob_AW.mp3" length="10342819" type="audio/mpeg" />
		</item>
		<item>
		<title>Calvinistic newbie</title>
		<link>http://adrianwarnock.com/2006/01/calvinistic-newbie/</link>
		<comments>http://adrianwarnock.com/2006/01/calvinistic-newbie/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jan 2006 01:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>adrianwarnock</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Atonement]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Calvinism]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Irresistable Grace]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Limited Atonement]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Total Depravity]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Unconditional Election]]></category>

		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://adrianwarnock.com/2006/01/calvinistic-newbie/</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[My friend Dave Routlege shows his calvinistic training in his commentary about the history of his blog (which I helped him set up) arose. Astute readers will notice the correspondence to the five points of calvinism which cannot have been accidental (for more on the five points of calvinism follow the links at my post [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p>My friend Dave Routlege shows his calvinistic training in his commentary about the history of his blog (which I helped him set up) arose. Astute readers will notice the correspondence to the five points of calvinism which cannot have been accidental (for more on the five points of calvinism follow the links at my post on <a href="http://adrianwarnock.com/2004/12/its-all-about-you-jesuscalvinism-and.htm">Calvinism and worship.</a> Anyway here is <a href="http://adrianwarnock.com/2006/01/i-am-blogfather-again.htm#comments">what Dave said</a>:</p>
<p>1.I was totally incapable of setting it up myself. (Total depravity)</p>
<p>2.I did nothing to deserve it. (Unconditional Election)</p>
<p>3. No one else in the house has got one. (Limited atonement or in this case limited assistance!)</p>
<p>4. Once you suggested the idea, I was powerless to resist. (Irresistable grace)</p>
<p>5. Now that I have it; it will be there forever. (Perseverence of the blogs I mean saints &#8211; sadly like many apparent professions of Christian faith, blogs often die young. I predict Dave will make it past the crucial three-post hurdle at least!)</p>
]]></content:encoded>
			<wfw:commentRss>http://adrianwarnock.com/2006/01/calvinistic-newbie/feed/</wfw:commentRss>
		<slash:comments>2</slash:comments>
		</item>
		<item>
		<title>More on Unconditional election, &quot;double predestination&quot; and the wills of God and man</title>
		<link>http://adrianwarnock.com/2004/11/more-on-unconditional-election-double-predestination-and-the-wills-of-god-and-man/</link>
		<comments>http://adrianwarnock.com/2004/11/more-on-unconditional-election-double-predestination-and-the-wills-of-god-and-man/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Nov 2004 01:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>adrianwarnock</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Charles Spurgeon]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Unconditional Election]]></category>

		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://adrianwarnock.com/2004/11/more-on-unconditional-election-double-predestination-and-the-wills-of-god-and-man/</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[JOLLYBLOGGER has now posted on Unconditional Election, which he posted after my own post on the same subject. As usual he does a great job- a much better one than I- but as is my want I will once again be slightly nit-picking. This is not so much because I think he and I really [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p><a href="http://jollyblogger.typepad.com/jollyblogger/2004/11/next_in_this_se.html#comments">JOLLYBLOGGER</a> has now posted on Unconditional Election, which he posted after <a href="http://adrianwarnock.com/2004/11/u-unconditional-election-five-points.htm">my own post</a> on the same subject.</p>
<p>As usual he does a great job- a much better one than I- but as is my want I will once again be slightly nit-picking. This is not so much because I think he and I really differ on this, but rather to make the point clearer for some of our readers.</p>
<p>I was a little surprised by the quote that he uses to describe Election, since it seems to say that God has chosen people both for salvation and for damnation.</p>
<p>The quote is a little too close for my comfort to &#8220;double predestination&#8221; or the notion that some people are eternally elected to be damned in just the same way as the elect are chosen for salvation. At its most extreme, any sense of human will being involved in salvation or damnation is lost. People are sent to hell according to the most extreme interpretation of this view simply because God wanted to send them there. This might sound like a logical step &#8211; some arent chosen therefore they are chosen not to be chosen. Unfortunately, as is usually the case in theology a rational step is in this case in my view a step too far.</p>
<p>The bible generally doesnt seem to equate damnation to hell with election to heaven. The closest we get to this view in scripture is in Ro 9:21-23 <em>&#8220;Has the potter no right over the clay, to make out of the same lump one vessel for honored use and another for dishonorable use? 22 What if God, desiring to show his wrath and to make known his power, has endured with much patience vessels of wrath prepared for destruction, 23 in order to make known the riches of his glory for vessels of mercy, which he has prepared beforehand for glory&#8221; </em></p>
<p>At first glance this passage appears to teach &#8220;double predestination&#8221;. In fact there is an assymetry here. The vessels of wrath are passively considered &#8220;fit&#8221; for wrath, but the vessels of mercy are actively prepared by God for salvation.</p>
<p>Thus, Gods will is the sole cause of our salvation. However this passage implies and the rest of scrripture clearly teaches it is mans own will that is soley responsible for damnation.</p>
<p>Our wills are involved both in the process of salvation, and more so in the reason for our damnation. Spurgeon in his masterful sermon on <a href="http://www.spurgeon.org/sermons/0442.htm">God&#8217;s will and man&#8217;s will </a>says <em>&#8220;There are two things, then, this morning I shall have to talk about. The first is, that the work of salvation rests upon the will of God, and not upon the will of man; and secondly, the equally sure doctrine, that the will of man has its proper position in the work of salvation, and is not to be ignored.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>This might sound like a contradiction, I do not believe it is.</p>
<p>Spurgeon preaches on Ro 9 in sermon No 327 as follows-<br />
<br />
<blockquote>
<br />&#8220;Are there not some of you here present, who are being fitted for destruction?<br />
<br /><strong>God is not fitting you, you are fitting yourselves, </strong>by daily developing and indulging the depravity of your heart. You are seeking out every new pleasure, and every new sin,and though often warned to turn from your course of evil are there not some of you who are rushing headlong to destruction? Are not many of you by a course of sin and folly, ripening yourselves for the great harvest of the Lord? Are you not making yourselves ready to be as stubble fully dried, cast into the oven of his wrath? This is not to be laid to the charge of God, but at your own door the guilt must he. If you perish any one of you, on your own head shall be your blood. The eternal God is not guilty of the murder of men&#8217;s souls, they that die and sink in hell are suicides; they have rejected mercy, they have despised the Savior, they have chosen sin and hated holiness. As was their choice, such is their portion; as was their<br />
<br />rebellious will on earth, such must be their tormented destiny for ever&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
<p>You are filling up the measure of your iniquity, and preparing with all diligence to be fitting companions for the devils in hell&#8230;..</p>
<p>Hell&#8217;s thistles grow self-sown, but God&#8217;s wheat needs a husbandman.</p>
<p>Vessels of mercy fit themselves for destruction, but grace alone can prepare a soul for glory.</p>
<p>There is no reason in the world why any man should be saved apart from the sovereign and distinguishing grace of God. If the Lord had permitted the whole human race to perish he would have been infinitely just, and throughout eternity the angels must have hymned him in songs of adoration. If he had chosen to spare a few of mankind, the sparing of but a few would have been an act of surprising mercy, and mercy and judgment would have constituted the two elements of the eternal song. Inasmuch however, as he hath taken so much of the clayey mass, and hath been pleased to make vessels of mercy innumerable as the stars of heaven, unto his name be all the glory for ever and ever.</p>
<p>Take heed that when you think of the number of the redeemed you do not mar the idea that God is a sovereign still. Had he saved but one, you would have said it was an instance of absolute sovereignty, though he has saved tens of thousands the sovereignty is just as absolute as it was before.</p>
<p>Had the Lord left thee to become all that thine evil nature and Satan could have made thee, thou couldst not have murmured. If he had permitted thee to go on in thy drunkenness without sending the gospel to thee, and if he had allowed thee to reject that gospel as thou wouldest have done unless he had constrained thee to receive it, thou couldest not have impugned his justice, even though thou mightest have murmured at it. Thou hast been made what thou art, not as the result of any compulsion of merit demanding a debt from the Lord, nor by any effort of thine own, but thou art what thou art as the effect of the sovereign discriminating love of God<br />
<br />the Father in Christ Jesus our Lord.</p>
<p>Now let me ask my hearers again, have you learned this truth; have you learned how entirely you lie in God&#8217;s hand? Hast thou ever been brought my hearer to believe, that if saved it must be his will that saves thee, though if lost it is thy will that damns thee? Hast thou ever been stripped so naked, so thoroughly naked, that thou hast said, &#8220;I have no claim upon God. If he save me, it must be mercy, pure mercy, unmingled mercy? Oh! if thou hast never been brought here I tremble for thee. I pray the Lord to bring thee to this spot, for it is the very threshold of the door of grace; and when a man is brought here, he is not far from the kingdom of God. Be it<br />
<br />so with each of us, that we may acknowledge the sovereignty, and then admire grace in the sovereignty. </p></blockquote>
<p>That is real preaching in my book!  I will always believe with Spurgeon that there is an assymetry in Gods eternal decrees. Yes God chooses to overlook some and leave them in their sin, but he is not in himself willing that any should perish. He desires all men to be saved. He offers all men a free choice to accept salvation and turn and believe. All men reject this. He chooses to woo and over-rule some of those men and by his will make them willing. Thank God for him not leaving you to your free will. Beg him, if you are not yet saved that he will not overlook you and leave you in your sin. Know that if ANY should ask of him salvation he will not turn them away.</p>
<p>Do not worry about whether you are part of the elect, instead seek God. If you seek him, you will find him, and when you have found him then you will know that all along he was seeking you.</p>
<p></p>
]]></content:encoded>
			<wfw:commentRss>http://adrianwarnock.com/2004/11/more-on-unconditional-election-double-predestination-and-the-wills-of-god-and-man/feed/</wfw:commentRss>
		<slash:comments>0</slash:comments>
		</item>
		<item>
		<title>U &#8211; Unconditional Election (Five Points of Calvinism, Part 2)</title>
		<link>http://adrianwarnock.com/2004/11/u-unconditional-election-five-points-of-calvinism-part-2/</link>
		<comments>http://adrianwarnock.com/2004/11/u-unconditional-election-five-points-of-calvinism-part-2/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2004 22:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>adrianwarnock</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Arminocalvinist Spectrum]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Calvinism]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Steve Chalke]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Unconditional Election]]></category>

		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://adrianwarnock.com/2004/11/u-unconditional-election-five-points-of-calvinism-part-2/</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[I hope David will forgive me but I am going to be very naughty and jump ahead of him on my uninvited tagging allong on his TULIP series. I will not do as good a job of explaining this as he will, but we do seem to spark off each other quite well. Consider this [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p>I hope David will forgive me but I am going to be very naughty and jump ahead of him on my uninvited tagging allong on his TULIP series.  I will not do as good a job of explaining this as he will, but we do seem to spark off each other quite well. Consider this a primer for the masterly post he will no doubt put up fairly soon. </p>
<p>I have been speaking quite a lot about <a href="http://adrianwarnock.com/2004/11/more-on-free-will.htm">&#8220;free will&#8221;</a> lately and that leads nicely to this subject. My point about the limits to our will is really important to understand the subject of Unconditional election.  Terry Puritt has also posted his own story about his <a href="http://pruittcommunications.blogspot.com/2004/11/my-own-freewill-journey.html#comments">&#8220;Free will journey&#8221;</a> which is well worth a read.</p>
<p>Unconditional election quite simply means that there is nothing in us that prompts God&#8217;s choice of us to save us.  The doctrines of grace are there to humble us and recognise that it wasnt something special about us that led to us being saved.  As the old saying goes, the only thing I contributed to my salvation was my sin.</p>
<p>There is a natural tendancy for us to think more highly of ourselves than we ought.  If our wills are totally free then we have grounds to congratulate ourselves on our own morality and to feel superior to the &#8220;sinners&#8221; out there.  I fear that many evangelicals today are distinctly lacking in the grace department.  The old notion &#8220;there but for the grace of God go I&#8221; seems all too often to be absent.</p>
<p>I believe firstly that from a moral point of view even before I am a Christian I owe much to the general grace of God in restricting my will.  Even as a Christian, it is less about my will power and more about the power of God in restraining my errant impulses. If  the congregation I am a part of knew the kind of thoughts my mind sometimes has I wonder would they want to hear me preach?  If my will<br />
<br /><span class="fullpost"> had free reign and was unfettered by God, by society, by my upbringing, by my experiences I guess my life would not be a pretty sight.</p>
<p>When we find someone in the &#8220;gutter&#8221;, it is not usually exclusively because of bad choices they have freely made- although their choices do play a part.  Is a son of a robber more likely to grow up to be a robber? You bet your life he is.  Can he change?  Yes, sometimes.  Might he change even without becomming a Christian?  You bet.  Is he likely to change entirely of his own accord without any influence being put on him from outside?  No way.  </p>
<p>I guess my point is this- we are all sinners, and it is the grace of God that constrains us from becomming worse ones.</p>
<p>The idea of free will if it doesnt take account of the restraining and at times hardening hand of God, of the constraints of society, and yes even of the biology of our brains, is just an illusion.  It is well known now that if the biology of the brain is disturbed in certain ways our &#8220;impulse regulation&#8221; can go awry and people start to act out the urges that we spend most of our lives suppressing.</p>
<p>To my mind, it is vital that we realise something else about our wills- we are in ever increasing bondage to sin when we are not yet saved.  We willinging put ourselves in that path, and some of us go further along it than others.  But we all choose to rebell against God.</p>
<p>I do believe that the gospel comes with a genuine offer of salvation to all who hear it.  Turn around, excercise that will of yours- repent and believe in Jesus.  Begin to walk away from the sin you have been giving yourself too.  But, those pleas fall on deaf ears.</p>
<p>The reality of our so called &#8220;free wills&#8221; is that they cannot recognise a good thing when they see one.  Which convict on death row offered a pardon and release wouldnt grab it with both hands?  We say instead &#8220;it can&#8217;t be that simple&#8221; and &#8220;<a href="http://adrianwarnock.com/2004/11/steve-chalke-and-lost-message-of-jesus.htm">how can Jesus take my punishment, that would be wrong&#8221;</a></p>
<p>The harsh reality of our situation is that faced with a choice to get out of the trap we are in we instead choose to reject our Saviour&#8217;s offer of help.</p>
<p>Thats where grace becomes even more gracious.  We never deserved an offer of help in the first place.  But having turned down his offer Jesus woo&#8217;s us and over-rules our wills.  I didnt freely choose to follow him, he chose to pursue me.  I didnt reach out to him, he reached out to me.  I wasnt seeking him, he was seeking me.  I was dead, he made me alive.  I was blind, he made me see.  I hated him, he loved me.  </p>
<p>For God&#8217;s over-riding of my will I am eternally grateful.  My wonderment at his choice of me makes me realise that he can choose others.  I am determined whenever I preach to do so expecting to see fruit.  If God can save me, he can save anyone.</p>
<p>We have to believe this, and at risk of offending any arminian readers I have yet to offend, I think you believe this too.  For sure I have never heard an Arminian pray except like a Calvinist.  An Arminian will ask God to change peoples hearts and soften them to hear the gospel as much as any Calvinist.</p>
<p>I thank God that Jesus says to us today the same thing he said to his disciples all those years ago  <span style="font-style:italic;">&#8220;You did not choose me, but I chose you and appointed you that you should go and bear fruit and that your fruit should abide&#8221; </span>(Jn 15:16)</p>
<p> </span></p>
]]></content:encoded>
			<wfw:commentRss>http://adrianwarnock.com/2004/11/u-unconditional-election-five-points-of-calvinism-part-2/feed/</wfw:commentRss>
		<slash:comments>0</slash:comments>
		</item>
	</channel>
</rss>

<!-- Performance optimized by W3 Total Cache. Learn more: http://www.w3-edge.com/wordpress-plugins/

Minified using disk: basic (Feed is rejected)
Page Caching using disk: enhanced (User agent is rejected)
Database Caching 9/18 queries in 0.011 seconds using apc
Content Delivery Network via cdn.adrianwarnock.com

Served from: adrianwarnock.com @ 2012-02-12 12:11:36 -->
