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		<title>Billy Graham quote for Remembrance Day / Veterans Day / Armistice Day</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Billy Graham has brought definition to evangelicalism for decades. Here is a great quote from a great article that is apposite for today: From time to time we have had the opportunity to visit veterans’ hospitals. After a service, we’ve gone from bed to bed talking and praying with the patients. Many of these people [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p>Billy Graham has brought definition to evangelicalism for decades.  Here is a great quote from a great article that is apposite for today:</p>
<blockquote><p>From time to time we have had the opportunity to visit veterans’ hospitals. After a service, we’ve gone from bed to bed talking and praying with the patients. Many of these people feel neglected. They have lost limbs, eyesight or health in service to their country.</p>
<p>Some have been in the hospital for years and will remain there the rest of their lives. What a price they have paid for all of us. I once talked to a man who had lost a leg in World War II. When I remarked about the price he had paid, he said, “It was worth it, wasn’t it?”</p>
<p>Let some veterans show you the scars that they have received in battle, and you will realize how much suffering, heartache and blood our freedoms have cost.Out of this comes a great lesson to Christians. The Apostle Paul said, “I bear in my body the marks of the Lord Jesus” Galatians 6:17, NKJV. In other words, Paul said that he bore in his body the branding marks of a slave. When he called himself a servant of Jesus Christ, he did not mean a paid worker, as the word connotes today. He meant a slave, in utter subjection to the Master. But this subjection is borne out of love and devotion to Christ, and it ultimately brings liberty.</p>
<p> &#8211; Read more at <a href="http://www.billygraham.org/articlepage.asp?articleid=6393">BGEA: Service and Sacrifice</a>.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>GUEST POST &#8211;  Billy Graham, the first sincere preacher many had heard</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[“A strangely fascinating power is exerted by those who are utterly sincere.  Such believers attract unbelievers, as with the case of David Hume, the eighteenth-century British deistic philosopher who rejected historic Christianity.  A friend once met him hurrying along a London street and asked him where he was going.  Hume replied that he was going [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p><a href="http://cdn.adrianwarnock.com/wp/wp-content/media/2011/09/JohnStott.jpg?65aa6a"><img class="alignleft size-large wp-image-15569" title="JohnStott" src="http://cdn.adrianwarnock.com/wp/wp-content/media/2011/09/JohnStott-520x390.jpg?65aa6a" alt="" width="600" height="470" /></a>“A strangely fascinating power is exerted by those who are utterly sincere.  Such believers attract unbelievers, as with the case of David Hume, the eighteenth-century British deistic philosopher who rejected historic Christianity.  A friend once met him hurrying along a London street and asked him where he was going.  Hume replied that he was going to hear George Whitefield preach.  ‘But surely,’ his friend asked in astonishment, ‘you don’t believe what Whitefield preaches, do you?’  ‘No, I don’t,’ answered Hume, ‘but he does.’</p>
<p>I am convinced that in our day simple sincerity has not lost any of its power to appeal or to impress.  It was in 1954 that Billy Graham first hit the headlines in Britain, with his Greater London Crusade.  Approximately 12,000 people came to the Haringay Arena every night for three months.  Most nights I was there myself, and as I looked round that vast crowd, I could not help comparing it with our half-empty churches.  ‘Why do these people come to listen to Billy Graham,’ I asked myself, ‘when they don’t come to listen to us?’  Now I am sure that many answers could have been justly given to that question.  But the answer I kept giving myself was this: ‘There is an incontrovertible sincerity about that young American evangelist.  Even his fiercest critics all concede that he is sincere.  I really believe he is the first transparently sincere Christian preacher many of these people have ever heard.’  Today, twenty-five years later, I have found no reason to change my mind.”</p>
<p>John Stott, <em>Between Two Worlds: The Challenge of Preaching Today</em> (Grand Rapids, 1982), pages 269-270.</p>
<p><em>Thanks to <a href="http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/rayortlund/2011/08/04/sincerity-in-preaching/">Ray Ortlund</a> for this guest post.</em></p>
<p><strong>To read more on John Stott check out this recent post by Adrian:</strong> <a href="http://adrianwarnock.com/2011/07/john-stott-27-april-1921-%E2%80%93-27-july-2011-round-up-of-memorial-posts/">John Stott (27 April 1921 – 27 July 2011) Round up of memorial posts</a></p>
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		<title>Billy Graham Newsreels From The 1950s</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 23:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Pathe has masses of old video newsreels which were played before cinema films as a way of keeping up with the news back in the 1950s. Still fondly remembered and appreciated from that time are of course the missions of Billy Graham. Adrian Holloway at Newfrontiers Prayer and Fasting told us of some fantastic films [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p>Pathe has masses of old video newsreels which were played before cinema films as a way of keeping up with the news back in the 1950s.  Still fondly remembered and appreciated from that time are of course the missions of Billy Graham.  Adrian Holloway at Newfrontiers Prayer and Fasting told us of some fantastic films which detail those events.  You can imagine yourself there.  It is wonderful to see the crowds and somehow the very English voice-over speaking about what happened makes it seem more impressive.</p>
<p>There is footage of <a href="http://www.britishpathe.com/record.php?id=31670">Graham&#8217;s 1954 arrival at Waterloo</a> and his being mobbed there by thousands.  The clip closes with him claiming the crowds are gathered by God and not him. His <a href="http://www.britishpathe.com/record.php?id=31677">opening mission at the Haringey Arena</a> which held 11,000, during which he speaks of how it had been a long time since evangelism had filled the front pages of the Newspapers.  The <a href="http://www.britishpathe.com/record.php?id=31883&amp;session_lightbox_add=1&amp;record_id=31883&amp;media_urn=29458">mission closed at Wembley Stadium,</a> and in the following year a clip of the <a href="http://www.britishpathe.com/record.php?id=39324">Wembley Stadium crusade</a> is perhaps the most impressive.</p>
<p>The <a href="http://www.britishpathe.com/record.php?id=44198">1966 crusade in Earl&#8217;s Court</a> is also covered and a wealth of <a href="http://www.britishpathe.com/results.php?search=%22billy+Graham%22">other newsreel videos about Billy Graham</a> are also available.</p>
<p>If this all whets your appetite for more vintage Graham, there is also an amazing media site run by the<a href="http://www.billygraham.org/Mediaplayer.asp"> Billy Graham Evangelistic Association</a> which includes full sermons.</p>
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		<title>Billy Graham at 90 Round Up Post</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 19:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Many bloggers are commenting on the 90th birthday of Billy Graham, who is the evangelist who has spoken the gospel to more people than anyone else in human history. Billy is a global force for good who is sorely missed. I, for one, wish he could do one last big mission beamed all around the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p>Many bloggers are commenting on <a href="https://www.billygraham.org/News_Article.asp?ArticleID=420">the 90th birthday of Billy Graham</a>, who is the evangelist who has spoken the gospel to more people than anyone else in human history. Billy is a global force for good who is sorely missed. I, for one, wish he could do one last big mission beamed all around the world to multiple stadiums. But, at 90 he can be forgiven for feeling it is time to just enjoy his retirement.</p>
<p>Apparently because of Graham&#8217;s ill health <a href="http://akamat.wordpress.com/2008/11/07/son-billy-grahams-work-with-presidents-is-ending/">Obama will be the first president not to have Graham as a mentor and advisor</a>. That&#8217;s a shame as so many presidents before him have welcomed Graham&#8217;s advice and friendship. It is also possible to view <a href="http://www.billygraham.org/mediaplayer.asp">video of Billy&#8217;s sermons</a> online, and a <a href="http://www.billytheearlyyears.com/">film of his early years</a> is in cinemas in the USA. I wonder if it will come to the UK.</p>
<p>Today a raft of bloggers and news outlets paid tribute to him. I thought I would list some of them here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.newcitypres.com/blog/?p=559"></a>
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<li><a href="http://www.newcitypres.com/blog/?p=559">Billy&#8217;s Grandson</a></li>
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<li><a href="http://www.desiringgod.org/Blog/1484_A_Tribute_to_Billy_Graham_at_90/">John Piper</a></li>
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<li><a href="http://www.joshharris.com/2008/11/billy_graham_turns_90.php">Josh Harris</a></li>
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<li><a href="http://www.cnn.com/2008/LIVING/wayoflife/11/06/billy.graham.turns.90/index.html">CNN</a></li>
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<li><a href="http://www.usatoday.com/news/religion/2008-11-04-billy-graham_N.htm">USA Today</a></li>
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<li><a href="http://www.crosswalk.com/blogs/DBurchett/11595493/">Crosswalk</a></li>
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<li><a href="http://trpost.blogspot.com/2008/11/happy-birthday-billy.html">Signs and Wonders Blog</a></li>
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<li><a href="http://33foramoment.blogspot.com/2008/11/happy-90th-birthday-billy-graham.html">33 for a moment</a></li>
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<li><a href="http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/special/graham.html">Christianity Today</a></li>
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<li><a href="http://au.christiantoday.com/article/world-celebrates-billy-grahams-90th-birthday/4686.htm">World Australia</a></li>
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		<title>SERMON &#8211; Building for the Glory of God: Nehemiah 3</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 23:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Last Sunday I preached on Nehemiah 3. You can download the sermon, listen to it right here, download the video via the vodcast or by rightclicking on this download link. or read the edited trancript below. You can Then Eliashib the high priest rose up with his brothers the priests, and they built the Sheep [...]]]></description>
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<p>Last Sunday I preached on Nehemiah 3. You can <a href="http://cdn.adrianwarnock.com/wp/wp-content/media/2008/10/nehemiah3_AW.mp3">download the sermon</a>, listen to it right here, download the video via the <a href="http://itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewPodcast?id=296571806">vodcast</a> or by rightclicking on this <a href="http://jubilee-church.org/files/videos/20081109_BackToTheWord_AW.m4v">download link.</a> or read the edited trancript below.  You can</p>
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<blockquote><p>Then Eliashib the high priest rose up with his brothers the priests, and they built the Sheep Gate. They consecrated it and set its doors. They consecrated it as far as the Tower of the Hundred, as far as the Tower of Hananel. And next to him the men of Jericho built. And next to them Zaccur the son of Imri built.</p>
<p>The sons of Hassenaah built the Fish Gate. They laid its beams and set its doors, its bolts, and its bars. And next to them Meremoth the son of Uriah, son of Hakkoz repaired. And next to them Meshullam the son of Berechiah, son of Meshezabel repaired. And next to them Zadok the son of Baana repaired. And next to them the Tekoites repaired, but their nobles would not stoop to serve their Lord.</p>
<p>— Nehemiah 3:1-5</p></blockquote>
<p>We are looking today at Nehemiah, chapter 3. We&#8217;re going to look at the chapter as a unit, and although it can, at first glance, seem like a list of names, you can draw a sort of graph of the wall of Jerusalem with all the different gates and places that were built. It might seem like a kind of catalogue, but it’s actually a very important chapter, and it’s important for two main reasons.</p>
<p>The first reason is this—it demonstrates to us that God is interested in people. All of these men and women actually built something for God, and God made sure their names got into the Bible. That’s pretty exciting, isn’t it? So God cares about the individual. He cares about you and he cares about me. The second reason it’s important is because the whole book is about building. And today we’re looking at the chapter when they were actually doing the building.</p>
<p><strong>WHY BUILD?</strong><br />
Why did they build? What prompted them to do it? Why were they interested in building? I think that while we don’t see it directly in this chapter, we have already seen that when Nehemiah arrived, Jerusalem was in disrepair—there was a shame, a mocking that was going on. The line behind that was a concern for the honor and the glory of God. We need to understand that Jerusalem was God’s home. God’s reputation was tied up with Jerusalem because Jerusalem was the place where God dwelt. Originally the temple was in ruins. That had now been rebuilt. But when you see the walls of the city in ruins, what are you going to think about God? “Oh, so <em>your </em>God is the kind of god that allows his precious city to fall into ruin, is he?” This is the problem we have today, of course, because many people look at the Church, particularly in the West, and say it’s in ruins. It’s a mess. So they were concerned for the glory of God.</p>
<p>So why build? <strong>We build because our motivation for the work is that God may be glorified.</strong> We’re not like the people who built the Tower of Babel in Genesis 11:4. Those people said, “Come let us build ourselves a city, and a tower with its top in the heavens, and let us make a name for ourselves.” There are many people today who are interested in making a name for themselves. I trust that we are interested, not in making a name for ourselves, but in making a name for Jesus. We want to see Jesus famous again in the earth. And not just infamous as a swear word, as a blasphemy that is used so often, as a name to be trampled in the mud, a word used in the same way that people use for excrement. One minute they’re saying, “Oh excrement!” (whatever that word might be), and the next minute they’re saying the name of our precious Savior. That has to stop. We want to see Jesus famous again. They wanted Jerusalem to be a place that was solid, strong, yet safe from enemies, but more than that, that it would demonstrate that God was who he said he was. That God keeps his promises. Because God’s reputation is on the line. He put his reputation on the line for the Israelis. And he puts his reputation on the line for you and me. If we’re Christians, he cares about us. But also the bounds on his glory.  Jesus wept over Jerusalem in his day, saying, “Why could I not gather you?”  Also, the heavenly Jerusalem is seen as a picture of the Church. We are the new Jerusalem. And one day Jerusalem will come out of heaven, the heavenly Jerusalem, and will be here on earth. The dwelling of God will be with men and women forever. We will no longer be separated from God.</p>
<p>You will notice that when Nehemiah comes to the people, he actually, in the short-term, doesn’t  promise them anything. He doesn’t say, “I’m going to give you lots of money if you work.” Instead he says, “I’ll give you sweat.” It’s a bit like when Winston Churchill said—“All I have to offer you is blood and sweat and tears . . .” and the whole nation of Britain rose up as one man. Why? Because we have a desire within us to live for something bigger than ourselves. A reason, if you like, beyond ourselves. <strong>Living for the glory of God.</strong> If you live for the glory of God, then a number of things become the norm. It becomes normal to love God, it becomes normal to have a passion for his Church, to care about his bride, the bride that so many people diss today, that so many people are negative about today, hateful about, say all sorts of evil things about. God loves his bride and God loves his glory, and he loves those who love his glory. The question is very simply this—Will we do what God’s glory deserves? It’s not so much what God will do for us. It’s what we can do for God and for his glory. What can we do for God’s glory? If we will respect God and live accordingly, then God will actually honor us and bless us too. Our purpose is to be those who live for the glory of God. There’s the old Puritan saying, the old statement of faith—What is the chief end of man? It’s this—to glorify God and to enjoy him forever and ever.</p>
<p><strong>WHAT EXACTLY DO WE BUILD?</strong><br />
We’re not building a physical temple. We at Jubilee meet in a cinema. We don’t even have our own building. But even if we had our own building we wouldn’t be so concerned about the building. What we are concerned about is the people. How are you building your life? The Bible thinks of our lives as being like a building. Matthew 7:24-27 says:</p>
<blockquote><p>Everyone then who hears these words of mine and does them will be like a wise man who built his house on the rock. And when the rain fell, and the floods came, and the winds blew and beat on that house, but it did not fall, because it had been founded on the rock. And everyone who hears these words of mine and does no do them will be like a foolish man who built his house on the sand. And the rain fell, and the floods came, and the winds blew and beat against that house, and it fell, and great was the fall of it.</p></blockquote>
<p>There are many things that shake us in this world. Things can shake us individually. Things can shake us as families. Things can shake us as communities. Things can shake us as whole nations. And right now there are things that are shaking us as the whole world. We are facing some interesting financial storms at this time. We have to ask, “Were the banks building on sand or on a rock?” Oh, it can look very nice for a number of years. It can look very attractive. You can start talking about billions of pounds; in fact, trillions of pounds—and that can all be wiped out when the storm comes, as the foundations are exposed. I want to challenge you this morning not to assume that you have the foundation right. I want you to ask, “Have I got the foundation right?” Jesus tells us in those words how we know if we’ve got the foundation right. This is not <span style="font-style: italic;">how</span> you get the foundation right. Please understand there’s a big difference here. Being a Christian is about a relationship with Jesus. But how do you <span style="font-style: italic;">know</span> if you’ve got that right? How do you know if you’ve been born again? Let me tell you. Jesus said this—if you do the things Jesus says, that’s how you know. Do you do the things that Jesus says? Do you live a godly life? Or is your life no different from the world? Are you sleeping around? Are you consuming too much alcohol? Are you rowing with your wife or your husband in an inappropriate way? Well, Jesus would seem to say here—be careful! Is your foundation right? Look again at your foundation. The truth is this, of course—we all sin. We all fail. Even Christians who have been Christians for ten, twenty, thirty years still sin. I’m not saying we have to be perfect to know that we’re going to heaven. The question is simply this—is the foundation there? And what is that foundation? The foundation is Christ himself. He&#8217;s the solid rock on which we stand. All other ground is sinking sand. If you stand today on the basis of “Oh well, I’m a good Christian. I go to church. I pray. I read my Bible.” That’s no foundation. No, Christ is the foundation, and what he did for us on the cross. Paul explains this very well in 1 Corinthians 3. I do want us to be slightly unsettled for a moment and again look at our foundation. Am I relying on Christ for my salvation or am I relying on my own good works? Do I think I can be good enough for God? No, none of us can be good enough for God. 1 Corinthians 3 says this:</p>
<blockquote><p>. . . like a skilled master builder, I laid a foundation, and someone else is building on it. Let each one take care how he builds upon it. For no one can lay a foundation other than that which is laid, which is Jesus Christ.</p></blockquote>
<p>And when I say “Jesus Christ,” what I mean is this—I mean his perfect life, his sinless life. I mean his undeserved death, taking our punishment for us. And I mean his resurrection from the dead, raised to life, glorious, victorious, conquering death that we might not have to suffer death eternally. Oh, we may taste death at some point in our lives, but we will not suffer it eternally if we are saved. That’s the foundation—his life, his death, his resurrection—what is laid, Jesus Christ.</p>
<p>Now maybe you do have the foundation right. But Paul says, “Be careful!”</p>
<blockquote><p>Now if anyone builds on the foundation with gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, straw—each one’s work will become manifest, for the Day will disclose it, because it will be revealed by fire, and the fire will test what sort of work each one has done. If the work that anyone has built on the foundation survives, he will receive a reward. If anyone’s work is burned up, he will suffer loss, though he himself will be saved, but only as through fire.</p></blockquote>
<p>There are two key questions that we need to ask ourselves here.</p>
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<li><span style="font-weight: bold;">Do you have the foundation right?</span> Are you a believer? Has God caused you to be born again? Has God granted you that new life? Are you aware that you are relying on him, on Jesus, on what Jesus has done? Have you truly repented from your sins? Have you truly given your heart to him? Have you given yourself to follow him? That’s just the foundation for that. But if that foundation is there, then you will go to heaven. But so many Christians stop there and say, “Well, if I’m going to heaven, that’s fine.” But notice this. Paul is saying here that there’s building to be done.</li>
<li><span style="font-weight: bold;">How are you building your life? Are you building your life for the glory of God?</span> Or are you building your life for comfort? Are you building your life to get more money? Are you—dare I say it?—even shamefully trying to use God as a means to get more money so that you can be more comfortable? Nehemiah never offered them comfort. In fact, he said, “Come away from your comfortable houses now and work. Pick up the trowel.” I want to challenge you. Have you picked up the trowel in your own life? Or is your life a ruin? Is your life a mess? So many lives are wasted. So many lives are wasted by wrong decisions and the consequences of those wrong decisions working themselves out over years and years and years. Sometimes a life needs to be knocked down and rebuilt by the grace of God. If you have wasted your life, God can help you restore it and renew it. God is in the business of restoring. And he doesn’t just want you to get to heaven by the skin of your teeth. He wants you to get to heaven where he can look you in the eye and say, “Well done, good and faithful servant.  We worked together. We built together. We built together in your life. We built together in your family.&#8221; Its not just for the sake of your kids being comfortable and you having that nice modern life style, but for the glory of God.But notice this. It’s also about the Church. In Matthew 16:18, Jesus says this: “I will build my Church and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.” Actually, the church is built up with lots and lots of lives that themselves are being built well. If your life is being built well, God would challenge you, not just to be a passenger, not just to be a seat warmer in these nice comfortable seats, thinking, “Oh, yes, I liked that sermon. Or, I didn’t like that one as much. Wish we could get the other preacher back.” Or, “The worship was okay this morning.” No, the question is this—what are you contributing? Are you building the Church? Are you building the life of your neighbor? The person sitting next to you? The person in your small group?  Are you actively seeking what God might want you to do? And I want to challenge your this morning. If you are a Christian here this morning, it’s time to pick up the trowel. And if you’re not a Christian, this is an opportunity to get a foundation that is laid by Christ. You see, only Christ can lay the foundation, but we all, with God’s help, can build on that foundation.</li>
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<p><strong>HOW SHOULD WE BUILD?</strong><br />
My third point is simply this—How did they build? And of course, “How then should we build?”</p>
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<li>An interesting thing is this—<span style="font-weight: bold;">when they built, </span><strong>they had a strategy</strong>. And they built in such a way that the work was designed in a very clever way by Nehemiah. Nehemiah rode around the wall and he identified different bits of the wall. And he said, “Okay. This bit of wall you can do. And this bit of wall you can do. This group of people—you can go there.” So they submitted themselves to Nehemiah. I wonder when you read a story like Nehemiah whether you have a tendency to identify with Nehemiah and say, “Oh, yes, God is calling ME to be a Nehemiah, and God is going to give ME a vision.” And maybe that’s right. God will give us a vision. But I wonder actually whether we ought not to be looking to identify with these ordinary people. Not everyone can be a Nehemiah. I know I’m not a Nehemiah. But I do know this. I can serve a Nehemiah’s vision. And I can build. And actually, I can build with a team alongside me. I haven&#8217;t invented my own vision. I have no desire to do that. I’m building the Church of God that has been purchased by Jesus. And I’ve given my life to that. I’ve given my life to this place; to helping in whatever way I can. With maybe a group of people who are under me, if you like, who I’m leading and supervising and helping—yes.
<p>But what if the question is this—What can I do to help? How can I serve? There are many ways in which you can serve in church. There are all kinds of things. It’s not just about preaching. It’s not just about leading worship. Sometimes people come into church and the very first thing you hear from them is—“Oh, yes, I used to do this and that and the next thing in my last church.” But hold on for a second. The question is this—Will you just muck in? Will you just do what God is calling you to do? Will you just do what is needed? There are all kinds of jobs. Welcome people are needed to show others the way in from the car park when it&#8217;s cold. And it’s going to get harder in the English winters soon. I can just see it now, shivering out there, while everyone in here is singing, “Oh, we worship Jesus!” And you’re saying, “You know, I’m just freezing for Jesus.” But that’s what you’re doing—you’re freezing for Jesus. And God will reward what is done in secret.  There’s a God who will honor you and who will give maybe a bigger crown to you than to that person you&#8217;re envying, who is at the front every week. God sees when you miss a sermon to go out and teach, not to a whole room full of people, but to a few kids. And I can tell you this. Thirty years on—I still remember one of my Sunday School teachers particularly. A lady called Janita Ring. She wasn’t a preacher on a Sunday morning. She didn’t lead a church. She didn’t do any of those things. But she inspired a young boy to love God, and I’m very grateful for Janita Ring. I’m very grateful for my Christian parents. I’m very grateful for all the other Sunday School teachers whose names I don’t necessarily remember, but I do remember the impact. And God remembers. God sees. There was some guy who invited Billy Graham to a crusade when he wasn’t saved. Imagine that! Your job in life could be to invite a young boy to a crusade! If that was all he did in his whole Christian life, that would have been pretty impressive, no? And I don’t even remember his name.</li>
<li>What we see if we look in the Scripture here is that <strong>every man is committed to the work</strong><span style="font-weight: bold;">, everyone of them.</span> Look in verse 1—what do we have? The priests simply sanctify the wall. I wonder what that looked like. They said they sanctified the wall. Have you thought about that? It probably involved a lot of blood because everything in the Old Testament involved blood. The priests were pretty enthusiastic, and there were two other places that they built as well. Then you have the men of Jericho. In verse 2, we see the men of Jericho. They did their bit then in verse 7, the men of Gibeon and Mizpah. We’re talking about aliens. We’re talking about people who are not from Jerusalem. We’re here in London, God loves London. We’re building a church here in the midst of London for the glory of God that we want to see hve an impact on our city. We want to see a changing expression of Christianity in this city. We want to see people take notice that there’s something glorious going on. And some of us actually didn’t come from London. Some of us didn’t even come from England. I came from England, but not from London—God called me here, and God called many people here. We have many people in our church who God has taken from other nations— for example from Africa. Everyone can play a part. In verse 13, we have Hanun and the inhabitants of Zanoah—I mean, who are these people from Zanoah? In verse 8, we have the goldsmiths, and they also seem to be pretty keen. They get up to it again in verses 31 and 32. We have perfumers. I mean, whoever taught perfumers how to build a wall?  And in verse 9, we see the ruler of half the district building, and that happens again, actually, later on—rulers building. And verse 10 is just someone building opposite his own house. Have you ever thought about your neighbors? What can you do for God with your neighbors? In verse 12, we see it says, “and his daughters helped,” so it’s not just the men, it’s the women too. And then we see a ruler building the Dung Gate.  And we see goldsmiths and merchants, basically business people. Business people can make a difference for God. And many of you think, “I want to lead the church. I want to work for God full-time.” You can work for God full-time and be paid, not by the church, but by some other master.</li>
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<p>So I urge the Christian—<em>Please don’t be like the nobles</em>. The Tekoite nobles wouldn’t stoop to serve their Lord. Perhaps a small group leader comes up to you. “Would you mind doing the Bible study this week?” And you reply, “Oh, I’m not sure I can really manage. I think I’ll leave that up to you. Because, you know, I’m still quite a young Christian.” And you think you’re being humble—you’re not. Actually, you’re being proud. You saying, “I refuse to stoop to serve my God.” Or someone comes up to you and says, “Would you come early one week and help with the teas and coffee?” And you say, “Well, I might be at a party the night before.” You won’t stoop to serve the Lord. That’s the posture of humility—to stoop. If it’s for the glory of God, then I will do it. Will you do it for the glory of God? It’s not about your glory. It’s not about your fame. It’s about the glory of God. Whatever he asks us, we need to be prepared to do it.</p>
<p>I want to close with one verse of a psalm. Psalm 127:1 says this, “Unless the Lord builds the house, those who build it labor in vain.” I want to ask you this, “Are you still  trying to build your own house? Are you someone who maybe has the foundation right, but you know you’re building with straw. And you think, “It’s okay. I’ll get to heaven.” I would challenge you, because the Bible isn’t very clear sometimes about how we know, how we determine who is one of those people who is going to get to heaven by the skin of their teeth because the foundation is right. They do believe in Jesus. They’re just messed up a bit as their life has gone on. They haven’t really contributed. They haven’t really earned their place in the universe, if you like. And who will be the ones who Jesus will look in the eye and say this, “Away from me, I never knew you.” My passion is this—I don’t want anyone in this room to be in that group because there will be church-goers in that group. They will even be church leaders in that group, because the Bible says that there will be those who have cast out demons in the name of Jesus. There will be those who have healed the sick in the name of Jesus. And you sit there thinking, “Well, I’m all right. I’ll just scrape in by the skin of my teeth.” Are you so sure? Are you so proud that you think, “Oh, yeah, I know better than God.” See, what God says to you is this—Give me your whole life. Let’s do this business of life together. Let’s build your life my way. Let’s do things my way. And then on that glorious day when the fire comes, what you have built will stand a lot better than the British banking system. I saw a statistic today. Apparently if you want to put your money somewhere safe, they say send it to Botswana. The Botswana banks are safer than the British ones right now. That’s what it said! I guess they haven&#8217;t loaned out so much money foolishly. Don’t be like the British bankers. Put your life on a firm foundation, on a sure foundation, on trust that’s not trust in some half-witted idea that money is going to keep on growing forever. No, it’s trust in the living God who loves you, who came, who died for you to save you, and to give you that new life.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[I only just recently discovered that videos from Billy Graham are available free online. I had a look at the following sermon from 1958 and it was really heartwarming. O may God raise up preachers like Billy again! Billy will soon be 90 years old and some people have set up a site for people [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p>I only just recently discovered that <a href="http://billygraham.org/mediaplayer.asp">videos from Billy Graham</a> are available free online.  I had a look at the following sermon from 1958 and it was really heartwarming.  O may God raise up preachers like Billy again!  <a href="http://www.billygraham.org/bgbirthday_readmessages.asp">Billy will soon be 90 years old</a> and some people have set up a site for people to send their stories of how Billy&#8217;s preaching touched them.</p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p>In a <a href="http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article4723758.ece">typically clumsy political maneuver by Gordon Brown</a>, he has had to retract his endorsement of US presidential candidate Barack Obama. UK prime ministers are usually extremely careful to remain neutral in American politics. Blair, for example, was possibly the only person in the world (other than perhaps Billy Graham) who was able to be a close personal and professional friend of both George W. Bush and Bill Clinton.</p>
<p><span style="FONT-STYLE: italic">The Times</span> report suggests that Brown was forced to make his climb down by the McCain camp. I wonder, however, if the man who famously decided he was giving bad luck to English sporting teams and started to stay away from international matches was possibly told in no uncertain terms by the Obama camp that they did not need his support or want it! I can&#8217;t help but wonder if the man has a &#8220;reverse Midas touch&#8221; where everything he touches does not turn to gold, but to disaster instead. If that&#8217;s true, I guess Brown&#8217;s support for Obama is good news for John McCain!</p>
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<p>More posts from this conference can be found on my <a href="http://adrianwarnock.com/labels/TOAM08.htm">TOAM08 label page</a>. You can also download the mp3s of this week&#8217;s talks by subscribing to the new <a href="http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewPodcast?id=283579505">Newfrontiers podcast</a>, which will be an easy way for you to get access to the mp3s for free.</p>
<p>Mark Driscoll began by thanking us again for having him, thanking us for the trust placed in him as someone we didn&#8217;t know, but who had a reputation for being proactive, for the reception and the new friendships, and specifically once again for Terry Virgo and <a href="http://adrianwarnock.com/2008/07/sermon-how-to-be-missional-every-day-by.htm">Tope Koleoso</a>, and for what he has learned.
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<p>Having been gracious, he then said, “And now I will hurt you . . .” with a twinkle in his eye. He says that he wants us to go beyond our goal of 1,000 churches and grow more quickly.</p>
<p>Our movement leader is Jesus. He interjected about his view of the apostolic. He briefly stated that he did believe in “capital A” Apostles whose job it was to write the New Testament. He also believes in “small a” apostles whose job it is to lead movements and church planting drives. And he believes in them for today. He also believes that Terry Virgo has such a gift and is therefore a modern-day apostle. Pointing at the crowd, he said, “This is good evidence” — meaning the movement of 600 plus churches represented in this room. Feel free to read <a href="http://adrianwarnock.com/2005/12/apostles-are-meant-for-today-challies.htm">one of my previous posts about modern day apostles</a> if this all seems a bit strange to you.</p>
<p>Mark explained that the church exists because of Jesus&#8217; desire to reach the ends of the earth. Paul was a leader under Jesus in this movement of Christ, and was responsible for the drive to the Gentiles. Paul completely ignored the rural areas and focused entirely on the cities. Mark strongly urged those of us in Newfrontiers to hear this if we want to grow faster.</p>
<p>If you plant a church in a rural area you will never reach the city. If you plant a church in the city you will also reach the rural areas. Everything hinges on the well-being of the cities. Cities are strategically important for two reasons. First, there are more people there, and second, culture emanates/flows from the city. City is upstream, and suburban and rural areas are downstream. The river flows one way. Culture does not come from the rural areas into the city. The only way to change culture is to transform the city.</p>
<p>Both Christian and non-Christian movements have always emanated from cities. It&#8217;s not the number of people, it&#8217;s the type of people. But today most cities are non-Christian and the rural areas are more Christian. So Christians become frustrated with the culture — films, music, books, art, etc. The only way to affect that is to be in the city. The key to actual change is to get upstream. We need to lead politicians, artists, musicians, etc. to Jesus. It&#8217;s not about getting a lot of people to make a difference. The degree of influence is not about the number of people, but their place upstream.</p>
<p>Christianity starts as an urban church planting movement. He described how he would go into a city and plant a church that could reproduce and plant out into the rural areas. Mark told us to pool our best leaders and resources into the key areas. Chief on that list is London. The world passes through London. Cities like Cape Town and Sydney and other such cities also need strong churches which will reproduce and plant more churches.</p>
<p>Early Christianity was a city-based movement. By 300 A.D. half of the cities of the empire were Christian while 90 per cent were still pagan. Pagan probably comes from a word which meant someone living on a farm. Urban church planting in strategic areas can become a center for a movement of its own. Multiple churches, multiple networks, multiple styles, but one mission—to obey the Great Commission.</p>
<p>Puritans were a movement. They were also very young—teens and 20&#8242;s. Methodism, the charismatic renewal—bigger than one denomination or network or one man. Young people tend to be at the center, at least early-on. By bringing in the students suggests that God was telling Terry, “I am planning more renewal.”</p>
<p>Spurgeon, Moody, Billy Graham, and others were all very young when called to ministry. What young people lack in wisdom they make up in zeal. If the older ones can make the transition from player to coach, they will do well.</p>
<p>Anglicanism isn&#8217;t having mass conversions right now because they are too busy fighting over who you can have sex with.</p>
<p>With a renewal movement going on, new churches are planted. New ways of doing things, new music, new styles, new ways of reaching out. Church planting requires new wineskins. The goal is not to plant churches, but to have converts such that it becomes necessary to plant churches.</p>
<p>Most movements are unaware of the scale of their influence.</p>
<p>Out of the movement comes supporting organizations—new songs, new books to write, etc.</p>
<p>Most movements come into being because of the coming of new technology. The Reformation was only possible because of the printing press. Evangelists like Billy Graham were only able to do what they did because of the newly invented amplified speaker systems, etc. The Internet is now spawning a new movement in form. We can preach the gospel to the nations with a click of a button.</p>
<p>Mark wants Newfrontiers to still exist when we are all dead, and to still be loving Jesus and planting churches.</p>
<p>Movements start as a simple organization that sees a need and a few friends club together. They come together to meet that need. God raises up a leader who the people recognize as the visible face, the one who God has called to lead them. The organization then grows and becomes a movement. Big interest is generated. More people come. The crowds grow. There is passion, purpose, mission, expansion. It can be fast and furious. Mistakes are made. Theology needs to be clarified. It can be a messy time, some people don&#8217;t fit.</p>
<p>During the time of growth there is pressure to become an institution. There no longer is courage, but rather a fear of failure. Founders and friends occupy all the positions of leadership. Those who have been there a long time have all the senior roles, and there is no room for the young. As soon as that happens the young guys leave to start another movement. The young guys of the past are in danger of becoming the old guys that they never used to like in the first place.</p>
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<p>The question for every movement is — <em>Will every seat always be filled by the founders and friends?</em> Only this will stop it becoming an institution. Institutions guard previous change, they don&#8217;t pioneer new change. They stop listening to anyone outside of the network they&#8217;re in. They only read books by, sing songs by, listen to teaching by people from inside their movement. A movement needs humility and discernment to listen to people from outside the movement.</p>
<p>Driscoll was shocked to be here. He sees how willing Newfrontiers is to bring in people from outside of Newfrontiers, bringing a gift to us. You receive it and consider it. That is one of the key ways a movement can avoid becoming an institution.</p>
<p>Once you have an institution, the next step is to become a museum. The remnant that is left behind exists solely to tell the story. In one generation a movement can transition to being an institution and then a museum.</p>
<p>Mark then outlined seven ways a movement can get off-track. He acknowledged that most of this was taken from Larry Osbourne.</p>
<p><strong><em><span style="color:#000099;">Doctrinally</span></em></strong><br />An example of this is Vineyard. It started well, but then drifted and compromised on ecclesiology, introduced women elders, etc. and became too loose. A movement can also become too tight. A healthy movement does not debate doctrines such as the atonement, the Bible, heaven, hell, etc., but should be free to discuss secondary issues. The key is to define what you need agreement on in order to be in the movement and what you can safely differ on.</p>
<p><strong><em><span style="color:#000099;">Relationships</span></em></strong><br />Mark has some concern for us here. People can love their circles of friendship so much that they are unwilling to break up their circles of leadership to make more room. It&#8217;s like Peter saying, “Let&#8217;s build tents.” Mission can become their friendship and not the Great Commission. It&#8217;s not that you shouldn&#8217;t have friends. But you tend to gravitate towards your friends. This affinity and love can exclude those who are new. This can be especially true in working teams. It might suddenly be time to break up a team for the mission. Again, Mark expressed a bit of concern for us over this.</p>
<p>There is a bit of relational resistance, and we should really be planting at least 70-100 churches a year from a base of 200 churches like Newfrontiers has in the UK. (Ed. There are another 400 or so worldwide.)</p>
<p><strong><em><span style="color:#000099;">Organizationally</span></em></strong><br />This is another concern Mark has for Newfrontiers. Everything is done initially through relationships and verbally. As time goes on, things must be written down, articulated, and defined. They move from the spoken to the written. If you are unwilling to make those adjustments you can become an institution. If the reason you don&#8217;t want policies, etc. is that you don&#8217;t want to become an institution, what you will become is a very poorly organized institution.</p>
<p><strong><em><span style="color:#000099;">Organizational Pride</span></em></strong><br />Some movements will not sing songs unless they have been written by them; they won&#8217;t read books that have not been written by them; nor will they listen to those from outside. Mark stated that he has no concern whatsoever about Newfrontiers on this front. There are times that every movement outgrows the counsel of their leadership and need wisdom from outside. He commends Newfrontiers for being so open to outsiders teaching them.</p>
<p><strong><em><span style="color:#000099;">Chasing Potential Rather Than Calling</span></em></strong><br />Movements can chase too many things at once. For example, Vineyard started as a church-planting movement and then became a renewal movement. They were involved in so many other groups that they didn&#8217;t really plant churches any more. Focus on the primary calling of the movement. Mark said that so far he hears that our primary goal is church planting, but 10 to12 churches a year is too few for a movement our size if we are truly pursuing this with all of our heart. He wondered what other things we were pursuing that were diverting our energies.</p>
<p><strong><em><span style="color:#000099;">Movements Stagnate Because of Lack of Publishing</span></em></strong><br />There is a need to do much, much more publishing. What is your doctrine of the Holy Spirit? What is your doctrine of church planting? What is your ecclesiology? Some of these things still need to be cleaned up. Actually he feels Newfrontiers is doing better than Acts 29 on some of these points. Websites, blogging, vodcasting, etc. More statements to safeguard the movement.</p>
<p>Mark warned us that the next point would be his most painful point, and he wasn&#8217;t wrong. By the time he had finished with us, I don&#8217;t think there was a dry eye in the hall.</p>
<p><strong><em><span style="color:#000099;">Movements Get Off-Course Because They Fail to Simultaneously Honor the Founder and the Future</span></em></strong><br />Some movements so honor the founder that they shipwreck the future. Some so honor the future that they shipwreck their founder. This is the defining issue for our movement. It will determine whether our movement a one-generation movement or many. At this moment do you believe that as a movement you would tend to honor your future or your founder? Which way do you feel Newfrontiers is heading?</p>
<p>For the first time in the history of a Newfrontiers conference, Mark proposed a vote. We don&#8217;t vote, but went along with it just this once. Of those who were bold enough to raise a hand, 80 percent said that they felt our tendency as a movement would be towards honoring our founding leader rather than running after the future.</p>
<p><img alt="Mark Driscoll" hspace="20" src="http://cdn.adrianwarnock.com/wp/wp-content/media/2008/07/Mark-Driscoll-Preaching-749741.jpg?65aa6a" align="left" vspace="20" />Driscoll agreed with those who responded that we tend to honor our founder, and we should do so! We love Terry Virgo and we should honor him. Mark said that he was only just getting to know Terry, but that he also loves him. He is a great man. He truly loves Jesus, the Scriptures, his family,and Newfrontiers. And we love him. The question is, <em>How can we best honor him?</em> We can do that by making sure that Newfrontiers remains a movement with a future and builds on Terry&#8217;s life work.</p>
<p>Mark then explained that he felt that God had given him a prophetic word for us as a movement, and for Terry in particular. This was remarkable in a way because he had said repeatedly during the week that this was an area in which he was learning from us. In his own church he had said that although he believes in gifts, they don&#8217;t use them. For someone who said he had no real models of gifts, he was about to share one that packed a heavy punch.</p>
<p>Looking down at Terry, who was sitting on the front row watching, he said that God had said that Newfrontiers is like a daughter to you, Terry. You have birthed it, held it, guarded it, cared for it, tended to it, prayed for it, loved it. You have been an amazing father to them.</p>
<p>He felt God said that, while not in the immediate future, there will come a day when you will need to walk her down the aisle and marry her to a great man so she will have children.</p>
<p>Driscoll urged us to pray for Terry as he is to make that transition at some point in the future. God will tell him. Be ready for it when it comes. Regularly pray for him. He asked us to commit to pray daily about this point. He said we should ask that Terry would have absolute certainty when it is time to walk it down the aisle, certainty about which man or men he should entrust her to. He looked at the crowd and declared, &#8220;You think of it a lot, but speak of it very little, because you love Terry. And you don&#8217;t want to dishonor him.&#8221;</p>
<p>Driscoll also warned us that we must not swing towards being all about the future. But it is the epicenter of whether we will continue to be healthy or begin to die. Pray for Terry Virgo. Pray for him every day that God will reveal to him when and how and who so that this will remain a movement. London is full of museums. We don&#8217;t need another one. We don&#8217;t need some of you to be just telling the stories in thirty years&#8217; time. We want the praises of Jesus to still be sung.</p>
<p>Rick Warren once spoke on movements. He said there are six phases of renewal:</p>
<p><strong><span style="color:#006600;">It begins and ends with personal renewal</span>.<em><br /></em></strong>You keep meeting with Jesus. He is alive! Be filled with the Spirit, meeting him in the Scriptures, be overwhelmed with the grace of God. Be scandalized with the gospel. Personal renewal, enthusiasm, joy.</p>
<p><strong><span style="color:#006600;">Next there is relational renewal</span></strong><br />Love of God in your heart is shared. Concern for the well-being of others. Captures something of your heart. Improves marriages, children. Circle of influence. Life of Jesus by the Spirit flowing through you to extend the grace of God to others. People show up early and stay late, and they are talking. They love to sing together because they are a people. This is what happens in Newfrontiers. Personal, which leads to relational, and shows up when we sing. Again Driscoll spoke of being impressed by our worship.</p>
<p><strong><span style="color:#006600;">Missional renewal is the next phase</span></strong><br />As we are connected to Jesus and love one another, our heart expands. We want new churches to get planted right now. We are people of God. The Word of God and the Spirit of God sustains us and we have to get that out.</p>
<p><strong><span style="color:#006600;">Leads to cultural renewal</span></strong><br />Be passionate about living as a city within the city. Cultural change in our churches will then spill out to the community. Infiltrates the culture of the cities. Culture here in Newfrontiers, according to Mark, is beautiful, but it needs to multiply.</p>
<p><strong><span style="color:#006600;">Structural renewal then needed</span></strong><br />The way we do things is going to need to change. More systems, more policies. 70-100 plants a year at least. The measure of life in this room should squeeze out many more than ten children a year!</p>
<p><strong><span style="color:#006600;">Institutional renewal is the ultimate goal</span></strong><br />Changing Christian organizations that are dead. Do not give up on churches, networks, museums, colleges, even Anglicanism. We could be a source of renewal. Pour life into a dead seminary, a dead church, etc. How refreshing it is to be around renewed people! This could be a gift to the whole body of Christ. In joy, giving them hope that change is possible. He said that for the entire time he has been with us, he has been happy, which is very unusual for him. He feels his spirit has been renewed through being here. We should pray for the dead and dying places where the light of the gospel is dimming or has been snuffed out altogether. Bring hope where there is hopelessness. In Acts 29, their church planters are from many different movements and denominations. It begins with Jesus and ends with everything. Young men, you need to step up. If he asks, <em>Who are the young leaders here?</em> don&#8217;t point to men years older than Driscoll.</p>
<p>One prayer is for a bunch of 20 year old guys with hope who will plant churches and preach the gospel with hope. Be looking at all times for men in their 20&#8242;s. They will be arrogant, foolish, impetuous, critical, disorganized, and they will be perfect for the task God has for them!</p>
<p>At the end of this talk, we did something that in my memory we have never done in the 30 years I have been attending Newfrontiers conferences — we all stood as one man in a standing ovation to this fatherly yet direct, loving yet firm, respectful yet critical, emotive yet rational, talk.</p>
<p>Terry Virgo then stood at the microphone and said that there have been times in our movement that were historic moments. He spoke about the way Kreingsak changed us in the past, and when Simon Petit spoke on the poor that also changed us. He said that he knew God told him to invite Mark Driscoll, but that when he did, he had no idea he would feel “taken apart” by him.</p>
<p>Terry then closed with a simple prayer in which he thanked God for his care for us as a movement. He also thanked God for Mark Driscoll, who he called one of God&#8217;s most remarkable servants. He thanked God for the high privilege of having Mark Driscoll on this platform, and spoke of how we really are a FAMILY on a journey, with a God who is continualy expressing his love for us.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here are notes from a sermon I preached on the 27th April at Jubilee Church. The mp3 is available to download here or listen to using the following embedded player- “You shall not murder.” (Ex 20:13) Ok, right at the outset, do we have any murderers here? No? Anyone planning on committing a murder? No? [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 85%;"><span lang="en-US">Here are notes from a sermon I preached on the 27</span></span></span></span><span style="color: #000000;"><sup><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 85%;"><span lang="en-US">th</span></span></span></sup></span><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 85%;"><span lang="en-US"> April at Jubilee Church. The mp3 is available to </span></span></span></span><span style="color: #000080;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><a href="http://cdn.adrianwarnock.com/wp/wp-content/media/2008/04/God%27s_gift_of_life-AW-R.mp3"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 85%;"><span lang="en-US">download here</span></span></span></a></span></span><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 85%;"><span lang="en-US"> or listen to using the following embedded player-</span></span></span></span></p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="font-weight: bold;"><span style="font-size: x-large;">“</span></span></span><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS,sans-serif;"><span><span lang="en-US"><span style="font-weight: bold;"><span style="font-size: x-large;">You shall not murder.” (Ex 20:13)</span></span></span></span></span></span></p>
<p class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 85%;">Ok, right at the outset, do we have any murderers here? No? Anyone planning on committing a murder? No? Good, so then we can all go home, yes? We got it straight, since we live in a Christian country means its Chicken for dinner tonight rather than human. Lets go get some coffee.</span></span></p>
<p class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 85%;">Actually there is some more to this commandment than first meets the eye.</span></span></p>
<p class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 85%;"><span lang="en-US"><strong>No careless killing</strong></span></span></span></span><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 85%;"><span lang="en-US"> ESV footnote &#8220;also causing human death through carelessness or negligence&#8221; so see for example Ex 21:28-29 “When an ox gores a man or a woman to death, the ox shall be stoned, and its flesh shall not be eaten, but the owner of the ox shall not be liable.  But if the ox has been accustomed to gore in the past, and its owner has been warned but has not kept it in, and it kills a man or a woman, the ox shall be stoned, and its owner also shall be put to death.”</span></span></span></span></p>
<p class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 85%;">Deuteronomy 22:8: “When you build a new house, you shall make a parapet for your roof, that you may not bring blood-guilt on your house if anyone falls from it.”</span></span></p>
<p class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 85%;"><span lang="en-US"><strong>Risk assessment is biblical! </strong></span></span></span></span><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 85%;"><span lang="en-US">“[The Jew] was to do everything humanly possible not to cause the death of another person” -The Master&#8217;s Seminary, Master&#8217;s Seminary Journal Volume 11, 11:206 (Master&#8217;s Seminary, 2000; 2003).</span></span></span></span></p>
<p class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 85%;"><span lang="en-US">- Therefore, </span></span></span></span><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 85%;"><span lang="en-US"><strong>human life is precious we should take good care of it</strong></span></span></span></span><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 85%;"><span lang="en-US">. Every human is made in Gods image and therefore worth looking after. It is the Christian faith that teaches us we are not just the outcome of millions of years of chance reactions. We don&#8217;t kill because life itself is a gift of God.  We should also support initiatives that reduce the risk of death or serious injury.</span></span></span></span></p>
<p class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 85%;"><span lang="en-US">eg </span></span></span></span><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 85%;"><span lang="en-US"><strong>car and road safety</strong></span></span></span></span><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 85%;"><span lang="en-US"> &#8211; </span></span></span></span><span style="color: #000080;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><a href="http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/transport/article3621890.ece"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 85%;"><span lang="en-US">1 in 200 risk of dying on the roads</span></span></span></a></span></span><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 85%;"><span lang="en-US">! So driving at no more than 30 mph in built up areas is a good idea due to the </span></span></span></span><span style="color: #000080;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><a href="http://www.thinkroadsafety.gov.uk/campaigns/slowdown/slowdown.htm"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 85%;"><span lang="en-US">dramatic risk of death if hit faster.</span></span></span></a></span></span><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 85%;"><span lang="en-US"> 95% live if hit at 20mph, 90% die at 40mph. Also wear seat belts, pay for proper maintenance, and buy the safest car you can afford.</span></span></span></span></p>
<p class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 85%;"><span lang="en-US">-also </span></span></span></span><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 85%;"><span lang="en-US"><strong>health measures</strong></span></span></span></span><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 85%;"><span lang="en-US">, smoking in public bans is good as it will lead to less premature death. Form of Russian Roulette – </span></span></span></span><span style="color: #000080;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><a href="http://www.ash.org.uk/ash_f5izj246.htm"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 85%;"><span lang="en-US">50% will die prematurely loosing ave of 16 years of precious God-given life</span></span></span></a></span></span><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 85%;"><span lang="en-US">. In country after country smoking bans have led to </span></span></span></span><span style="color: #000080;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><a href="http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/0,1518,506730,00.html"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 85%;"><span lang="en-US">dramatic drops in the rates of heart attacks</span></span></span></a></span></span><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 85%;"><span lang="en-US"> – 17% in Scotland for example in one year. Christians should support the provision of good health care and also simple social changes that can make massive impact by saving lives. Especially in developing world eg lack of clean water.</span></span></span></span></p>
<p class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 85%;">However, although this commandment applies to careless killing, there were clear distinctions made in the punishment depending on the intent “(1) the weapon used, (2) the enmity of the killer toward his victim, and (3) premeditation” (Numbers 35. 16–24) -The Master&#8217;s Seminary, Master&#8217;s Seminary Journal Volume 11, 11:205 (Master&#8217;s Seminary, 2000; 2003).</span></span></p>
<p class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 85%;">Similar rules are still used today.</span></span></p>
<p class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 85%;"><strong>What other things that might be called murder?</strong></span></span></p>
<p class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 85%;"><span lang="en-US">-We have seen that negligence such as careless fighting or driving, is surely potential murder by the </span></span></span></span><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 85%;"><span lang="en-US">broader hebraic definition. But what of some areas that may be less clear to some. Lets be very clear here -</span></span></span></span></p>
<p class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 85%;"><span lang="en-US">-</span></span></span></span><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 85%;"><span lang="en-US"><strong>Euthanasia</strong></span></span></span></span><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 85%;"><span lang="en-US"> or so-called “mercy killing”- so far even the unbelievers cannot bring themselves to legalize this in the UK. How could we know someone really understood what they were asking for and weren&#8217;t coerced or depressed? Bible simply says &#8220;no killing&#8221;. This surely even applies to some of the grey areas being discussed such as removing food and drink via tubes from brain damaged.</span></span></span></span></p>
<p class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 85%;"><span lang="en-US">-</span></span></span></span><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 85%;"><span lang="en-US"><strong>Assisting Suicide </strong></span></span></span></span><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 85%;"><span lang="en-US">remains illegal, but what about neglecting to prevent it?. Psychiatric services should be used appropriately&#8230; sadly the quality of our services vary. But people have a right to be treated against their will when they pose a danger to themselves and are not in their right minds.</span></span></span></span></p>
<p class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 85%;"><span lang="en-US"><strong>-Abortion? </strong></span></span></span></span><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 85%;"><span lang="en-US">We all agree that life exists after birth. We believe it is wrong to murder a newborn baby. So surely life exists just before. When then does it start? There is no logic to our current term limits for abortion- loosely based on when a child might survive &#8220;independently&#8221; outside the womb. But when technology improves will that mean the date changes? And, since a baby is not truly &#8220;independent&#8221; are they less fully human? </span></span></span></span></p>
<p class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 85%;"><span lang="en-US">Our question should simply be is this a human? Does he or she have the image of God? If so we must protect, not kill. John the Baptist leapt for joy in his mothers womb whom when he met Jesus  (Luke 1:44) and Psalm 139</span></span></span></span><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 85%;"><span lang="en-US"><strong> </strong></span></span></span></span><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 85%;"><span lang="en-US">makes plain God saw us and knew us there as he knit us together.</span></span></span></span></p>
<p class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 85%;"><span lang="en-US"><strong>-Contraception? </strong></span></span></span></span><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 85%;"><span lang="en-US">Pre conception fine, anything that definitely acts post conception is clearly not. Some methods are controversial as to their mode of action (eg oral contraceptive pill, coil etc). Christians should examine the evidence for themselves, pray, seek advice if needed then make the decision their </span></span></span></span><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 85%;"><span lang="en-US">conscience is happy with.</span></span></span></span></p>
<p class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 85%;"><span lang="en-US"><strong>-IVF? </strong></span></span></span></span><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 85%;"><span lang="en-US">Christians undergoing this procedure may wish to speak with their doctors about the fate of so-called &#8220;spare&#8221; embryos. Although they are routinely discarded, this need not be the case.</span></span></span></span></p>
<p class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 85%;"><span lang="en-US"><strong>-War?</strong></span></span></span></span><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 85%;"><span lang="en-US"> </span></span></span></span><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 85%;"><span lang="en-US"><strong>The police?</strong></span></span></span></span><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 85%;"><span lang="en-US"> Romans 13.1-4 &#8220;</span></span></span></span><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 85%;"><span lang="en-US">Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God. </span></span></span></span><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 85%;"><span lang="en-US"><span>Therefore whoever resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment. For rulers are not a terror to good conduct, but to bad. Would you have no fear of the one who is in authority? Then do what is good, and you will receive his approval, for he is God&#8217;s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword in vain. For he is the servant of God, an avenger who carries out God&#8217;s wrath on the wrongdoer.”</span></span></span></span></span></p>
<p class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 85%;">In the end this boils down to a simple question. If you were holding an armed gun, and had a chance to kill someone who was definitely about to kill another, would you be wrong to pull that trigger? The balance of the bible strongly suggests that you would not be wrong to do that. </span></span></p>
<p class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 85%;"><span lang="en-US">So far, though, for the vast majority of us, none of this will have touched us. Perhaps there are some in the room who have had an abortion, if so, please bear with me as there is forgiveness for you as we will explain </span></span></span></span><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 85%;"><span lang="en-US">later.</span></span></span></span></p>
<p class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 85%;"><span lang="en-US">But for the rest of us there is a danger that we will feel morally superior and proud of ourselves. So we haven&#8217;t murdered&#8230; Big deal! If we think </span></span></span></span><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 85%;"><span lang="en-US">that makes us worthy of praise by God we are deluded!</span></span></span></span></p>
<p class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 85%;"><span lang="en-US">Jesus punctures that bubble by saying </span></span></span></span><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 85%;"><span lang="en-US">“You have heard that it was said to those of old, ‘You shall not murder; and whoever murders will be liable to judgment.’ But I say to you that everyone who is angry with his brother will be liable to judgment; whoever insults his brother will be liable to the council; and whoever says, ‘You fool!’ will be liable to the hell of fire. So if you are offering your gift at the altar and there remember that your brother has something against you, leave your gift there before the altar and go. First be reconciled to your brother, and then come and offer your gift.” </span></span></span></span><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 85%;"><span lang="en-US">Matthew 5.21-24</span></span></span></span></p>
<p class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 85%;"><em><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>Words can kill!</strong></span></em></span></span></p>
<p class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><span style="color: #000000;">“</span><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 85%;"><span lang="en-US">Everyone who hates his brother is a murderer, and you know that no murderer has eternal life abiding in him.” 1 Jn 3:15 </span></span></span></span></p>
<p class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><span style="color: #000000;">“</span><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 85%;"><span lang="en-US">It is not only the act, but also the sentiment underlying the act, which is evil” &#8211; Walter A. Elwell and Barry J. Beitzel, Baker Encyclopedia of the Bible, Map on lining papers., 2044 (Grand Rapids, Mich.: Baker Book House, 1988).</span></span></span></span></p>
<p class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><span style="color: #000000;">“</span><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 85%;"><span lang="en-US">You are of your father the devil, and your will is to do your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning” Jn 8:44 </span></span></span></span></p>
<p class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 85%;"><span lang="en-US">Actual murder is just the extension of anger and bitterness. Billy Grahams wife was once asked if she had ever considered divorce during their long marriage her answer- &#8220;</span></span></span></span><span style="color: #000080;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><a href="http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1633197,00.html"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 85%;"><span lang="en-US"><strong>divorce, NO! Murder, YES!</strong></span></span></span></a></span></span><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 85%;"><span lang="en-US"><strong>&#8220;</strong></span></span></span></span></p>
<p class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 85%;"><span lang="en-US">If murder is sometimes the ultimate punishment for some imagined harm </span></span></span></span><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 85%;"><span lang="en-US">done by its victim, forgiveness is the opposite. Far from merely not murdering our enemies, God calls us to love them and forgive them.</span></span></span></span></p>
<p class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 85%;">We are told to forgive as we have been forgiven and warned that he will not forgive us if we do not forgive others.</span></span></p>
<p class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 85%;"><span lang="en-US">Christians should be recognized as those who practice </span></span></span></span><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 85%;"><span lang="en-US"><strong>the reverse of murder.</strong></span></span></span></span><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 85%;"><span lang="en-US"> If murder is treating someone as sub-human and a less valuable object then the opposite is surely thinking of others as more important than you and selflessly loving them expecting nothing in return. </span></span></span></span></p>
<p class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 85%;"><span lang="en-US"><strong>You can&#8217;t murder someone you love. </strong></span></span></span></span><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 85%;"><span lang="en-US">Jesus said love fulfills the law &#8211; love God covers the first few commandments, love your neighbor covers the rest.</span></span></span></span></p>
<p class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 85%;"><span lang="en-US">God is the ultimate forgiver. We see this in the sad story of King David. We see the king who is described as the man after Gods own heart that the smallest sin can grow to become a major one. Most murders happen as a result of an argument between for example husband </span></span></span></span><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 85%;"><span lang="en-US">and wife. It is even possible that by causing us to stop and realize how dangerous anger is that this sermon might prevent a future murder.</span></span></span></span></p>
<p class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 85%;">Owen once said “be killing sin or it will be killing you.”</span></span></p>
<p class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 85%;"><span lang="en-US">In Davids case, laziness led to a roaming eye. In our day he&#8217;d have visited certain websites or the top shelf at the news-agent. Then, he went on the roof to catch a glance at a woman bathing. That led to </span></span></span></span><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 85%;"><span lang="en-US">adultery. That led to deception and trickery. That led to murder.</span></span></span></span></p>
<p class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 85%;"><span lang="en-US">Sin is sin. We stand before God bankrupt. When you are bankrupt it doesn&#8217;t really matter if you owe a few thousands or a few million. </span></span></span></span><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 85%;"><span lang="en-US">You simply can never pay. An eternity in hell facing the wrath of God wont wipe away our sins. </span></span></span></span></p>
<p class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 85%;">The scandal of the cross is that on it, a man was murdered. Without removing the moral responsibility for that act, and the fact that we are all guilty of killing the son of God&#8230;.ultimately there was something else going on. </span></span></p>
<p class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 85%;"><span lang="en-US">The cross was a judicial killing. God the Almighty poured out his righteous wrath and punishment on his son. Jesus paid our debt. Not only did he cancel our debts, he credited our account with his righteousness. If you are a christian this morning he is as pleased with you not just as if you never sinned </span></span></span></span><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 85%;"><span lang="en-US">but just as if you were always righteous or put another way he is as thrilled with you as he is with Jesus! </span></span></span></span></p>
<p class="western" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 85%;"><span lang="en-US"><strong>Murderers are Invited to become Christians. Why? </strong></span></span></span></span><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 85%;"><span lang="en-US">Because God can even forgive murderers, </span></span></span></span><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS,sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 85%;"><span lang="en-US">So he can forgive you.</span></span></span></span></p>
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		<title>2nd Most Read Post &#8211; Blogging, Discernment, and a Book by Tim Challies</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[No. 2 on the list of most-read posts on this blog appeared on October 26, 2007. This post was an expression of some of my own concerns and frustrations about the blogging world I have come to love so much. I said some things I had been wanting to say for a long time, and [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p><strong><em>No. 2</em></strong> on the <a href="http://adrianwarnock.com/2008/01/introducing-my-most-widely-read-blog.htm">list of most-read posts on this blog</a> appeared on October 26, 2007. This post was an expression of some of my own concerns and frustrations about the blogging world I have come to love so much. I said some things I had been wanting to say for a long time, and it was not a great surprise that the aftermath of this post would <a href="http://adrianwarnock.com/2007/11/thanksgiving-and-some-changes-around.htm">lead me to disable comments on my blog</a> a month later. Tim&#8217;s book addresses discernment, which lies at the root of many of my issues with the Christian blogosphere and its direction.</p>
<p>A couple of updates to the original post appeared several days later and have been included here as part of the original post.<br />
<blockquote><strong><span style="color:#006600;">UPDATE—November 3, 2007</span></strong><br />Phil has now written <a href="http://teampyro.blogspot.com/2007/11/something-nice.html">part two of his reply</a>, and I have responded with a post entitled, &#8220;<a href="http://adrianwarnock.com/2007/11/of-tone-discernment-and-charismatic.htm">Of Tone, Discernment, and the Charismatic Question</a>.&#8221;</p>
<p><strong><span style="color:#006600;">UPDATE—October 29, 2007</span></strong><br />Phil Johnson over at Pyromaniacs and I have been debating the issues raised by my criticism of him in the <a href="http://teampyro.blogspot.com/2007/10/still-not-clear-on-concept.html">comments section of his original post.</a> Just search for &#8220;Adrian&#8221; using the &#8220;find in page&#8221; function if you want to follow our specific debate. Phil has also written a new post, &#8220;<a href="http://teampyro.blogspot.com/2007/10/if-you-cant-say-something-nice.html">If you can&#8217;t say something nice</a>,&#8221; and we are debating in the comments on that post.</p>
<p>I will leave this post at the top of my blog for a couple more days as I want to give you all a chance to read it. If you are interested in some of my related thoughts on this subject, you could read the following posts:
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<li><a href="http://adrianwarnock.com/2007/10/travel-wheaton-and-billy-graham.htm">My Visit to the Billy Graham Center</a>
<li><a href="http://adrianwarnock.com/2007/07/i-dont-want-balance-i-want-it-all.htm">I Don&#8217;t Want Balance, I Want It All!</a>
<li><a href="http://adrianwarnock.com/2006/12/comments-links-copyright-policy-and.htm">My Comments Policy</a>
<li><a href="http://adrianwarnock.com/2005/11/peace-to-allprinciples-for-god.htm">Blogging Principles for Christians</a></li>
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<p><a href="http://www.challies.com/my-book.php"><img alt="" hspace="20" src="http://cdn.adrianwarnock.com/wp/wp-content/media/2008/02/Discipline-of-Spiritual-Discernment-714649.jpg?65aa6a" align="right" vspace="13" border="0" /></a>Those of you with an eagle-eye will have already noticed that I am publicizing <a href="http://www.challies.com/my-book.php">Tim Challies&#8217; forthcoming book</a>, <span class="Apple-style-span" style="FONT-STYLE: italic">The Discipline of Spiritual Discernment</span>. I doubt that many are surprised that I should want to encourage you to read his book, and I will show in this post why that is the case.</p>
<p>To begin with, however, I want to be very open and honest with you. When I first heard that Tim was writing a book I was actually a little concerned. This may surprise those regular readers who know how much I respect Tim and enjoy his blog. But I still had in my mind an old paradigm where those who are in some way &#8220;approved&#8221; as trained experts are the ones who should write books. Tim, like me, has no theological degrees. I also know that, just like me concerning this blog, he has been rather surprised by the way in which his readership has grown to an extent he never predicted (and, I should say, to a substantially larger figure than my own). So I was surprised that Tim put his neck on the line still further by taking on the challenge of writing a book.</p>
<p>Tim and I have both been riding a wave—the wave of blogging. In both the secular field and the Christian field, it seems that the most successful bloggers almost all seem to have something in common; they are not &#8220;officially trained&#8221; recognized global experts in their chosen fields. Perhaps this is because the real experts are too busy to write on a daily basis, or perhaps this is because of a new phenomena in our culture—one with which I&#8217;m not particularly thrilled, to be honest. In our 21st century culture there is a growing mistrust of any form of authority and of academics. It is actually rather sad to me that this now seems to be spilling over into the Church, and that it might seem, at first glance, to also include the Christian blogosphere.</p>
<p><a href="http://cdn.adrianwarnock.com/wp/wp-content/media/2008/02/David-Wayne-709337.jpg?65aa6a"><img alt="David Wayne" hspace="20" src="http://cdn.adrianwarnock.com/wp/wp-content/media/2008/02/David-Wayne-709333.jpg?65aa6a" align="left" vspace="13" /></a>One of the most influential early articles discussing the Christian blogging phenomenon was titled, &#8220;<a href="http://djchuang.googlepages.com/WeKnowMoreThanOurPastors.pdf">We Know More Than Our Pastors</a>,&#8221; and it embodied this trend. It concerned me immensely. <a href="http://jollyblogger.typepad.com/jollyblogger/2005/07/tim_bednars_pap.html">David Wayne summarized</a> this piece and sounded some very valid concerns about it. For me, I wanted almost nothing to do with the concepts outlined therein.</p>
<p>Even as I have enjoyed the way that I have been able to be buffeted in this hurricane called blogging, I have also been somewhat concerned about some of the implications of this new marketplace of ideas. I suppose that, despite these reservations, I remain in the blogosphere because I am drawn to it as surely as a bee is to a flower in bloom, and as the Apostle Paul was to the debating spots of ancient Athens.</p>
<p>I am also here because somebody has to be. I am certainly not here because I imagine myself to be at the vanguard of some modern reformation that will sweep away the &#8220;old guard&#8221; in the way some bloggers (usually not Christian ones) speak about. I am here because, ironically enough, I see this new media as a way that we can proclaim the old, old message. I am here because, in some small way, I can act as a signpost to direct passing traffic to wiser heads than mine. The more readers I find visiting here, the more I feel the need to both quote and link to others. Whatever the size of your blog readership, that filtering process is the single best gift you can give both to your readers and to the writers of even the biggest blogs. I am pleased that the headlines from several bloggers who deserve to be read more than I do appear in the &#8220;Warnie Winners&#8221; box in my sidebar.</p>
<p>The blogging community can be thought of as a road system, a library, an ecosystem, or perhaps most aptly of all, a jungle. With no single classification system or map, what is needed are good wise guides. There are precious few of them online.</p>
<p><em><strong><span style="color:#cc0000;">Read more . . .</span></strong> <a href="http://adrianwarnock.com/2007/10/blogging-discernment-and-book-by-tim.htm">Blogging, Discernment, and a Book by Tim Challies</a></em></p></blockquote>
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		<title>Review of the Blog &#8211; September to December 2007: John Owen and John Piper</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[During the months of September and October, I spent a lot of time quoting from a book Justin Taylor produced—a lightly edited John Owen. These can all be read on the category page for posts labeled &#8220;John Owen.&#8221; In November, I gave John Piper on N. T. Wright the same treatment. I also wrote a [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p>During the months of <a href="http://adrianwarnock.com/2007_09_01_archive.html">September</a> and <a href="http://adrianwarnock.com/2007_10_01_archive.html">October</a>, I spent a lot of time quoting from a book Justin Taylor produced—a lightly edited John Owen. These can all be read on the category page for posts labeled &#8220;<a href="http://adrianwarnock.com/labels/John%20Owen.html">John Owen</a>.&#8221; In November, I gave <a href="http://adrianwarnock.com/2007/11/book-piper-on-wright-conclusion-what-is.html">John Piper on N. T. Wright</a> the same treatment.</p>
<p>I also wrote a post titled <a href="http://adrianwarnock.com/2007/10/blogging-discernment-and-book-by-tim.html">Blogging, Discernment, and a Book by Tim Challies</a> which managed to provoke the Pyromaniacs, review Tim&#8217;s book, and muse about the best approach to blogging for Christians—all in the same post! It was not long after that when I made the important decision to remove comments from this site because I just wasn&#8217;t managing to find the time to moderate them properly. This was announced in <a href="http://adrianwarnock.com/2007/11/thanksgiving-and-some-changes-around.html">Thanksgiving and Some Changes Around Here.</a></p>
<p>Terry Virgo hasn&#8217;t found out and stopped me yet, but I managed to let everyone into the <a href="http://adrianwarnock.com/2007/10/secret-of-newfrontiers.html">Secret of Newfrontiers</a>—if you want to know what that is, you will have to read the post. I was also able to share an interview with a man who has a unique perspective on our movement, having been in it for decades before officially leaving, while remaining our very good friend. I am, of course, talking about <a href="http://adrianwarnock.com/2007/10/interview-greg-haslam-on-being-reformed.html">Greg Haslam</a>, who is currently occupying D. Martyn Lloyd-Jones&#8217; pulpit in Westminster Chapel, London.</p>
<p>It was very moving to be able to visit the <a href="http://adrianwarnock.com/2007/10/travel-wheaton-and-billy-graham.html">Billy Graham Center</a> in Wheaton, Illinois. I was also able to return to London in time to renew my acquaintance with Mark Dever, and to listen to him preach. Here are the posts:
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<li><a href="http://adrianwarnock.com/2007/10/theology-for-all-lessons-for-future-by.html">Theology for All — Lessons for the Future by Mark Dever</a> </li>
<li><a href="http://adrianwarnock.com/2007/10/theology-for-all-lessons-for-present-by.html">Theology for All — Lessons for the Present by Mark Dever</a></li>
<li><a href="http://adrianwarnock.com/2007/10/theology-for-all-lessons-from-past-by.html">Theology for All — Lessons From the Past by Mark Dever</a><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold"></span></li>
<li><a href="http://adrianwarnock.com/2007/10/theology-for-all-mark-dever-in-uk.html">Theology for All — Mark Dever in the UK</a> </li>
<li><a href="http://adrianwarnock.com/2007/10/theology-for-all-interview-with-mark.html">Theology for All — An Interview with Mark Dever</a></li>
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<p><a href="http://adrianwarnock.com/2007_11_01_archive.html">In November</a> I met Mark Driscoll in the flesh for the first time and shared the following posts about the meeting and his sermons there, as well as mentioning a couple of key ones from his home church:
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<li><a href="http://adrianwarnock.com/2007/11/driscoll-on-defeat-of-shame-and.html">Driscoll on the Defeat of Shame and the Scotland MP3s</a></li>
<li><a href="http://adrianwarnock.com/2007/11/mark-driscoll-at-menmakers-in-scotland.html">Mark Driscoll at MenMakers in Scotland</a></li>
<li><a href="http://adrianwarnock.com/2007/11/mark-driscoll-preaches-on-atonement-in.html">Mark Driscoll Preaches on the Atonement in Edinburgh, Scotland</a></li>
<li><a href="http://adrianwarnock.com/2007/11/mark-driscoll-apologizes-for-not-being.html">Mark Driscoll Apologizes For Not Being Humble</a></li>
<li><a href="http://adrianwarnock.com/2007/11/mark-driscoll-firm-but-kind-about-joel.html">Mark Driscoll Firm, But Kind, About Joel Osteen on Prosperity Teaching</a></li>
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<p><a href="http://adrianwarnock.com/2007_12_01_archive.html">In December</a> I posted probably my most political post so far—&#8221;<a href="http://adrianwarnock.com/2007/12/time-to-put-stop-to-brown.html">Time to Put a Stop to Brown?</a>&#8221; It is fair to say that I assumed people would understand that I believed that, for better or worse, it is God who has given us this leader at this time. I should not have assumed that, nor should I have neglected to remind all of us of the need to pray for him. With Brown seemingly helpless against Cameron&#8217;s weekly accusations that the PM is dithering and indecisive, it sure looks like the leader of &#8220;The B Team&#8221; needs our prayers! For the sake of our nation, I hope something changes and soon.</p>
<p>My final interview of the year was actually a transcipt of an interview I had previously shared in audio form. <a href="http://adrianwarnock.com/2007/12/interview-rob-rufus-how-apostles-work.html">The interviewee was Rob Rufus</a>, and that was surely a good way to end what has been my most eventful year of blogging so far.</p>
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		<title>Mark Driscoll, Terry Virgo, and Shepherding God&#8217;s People</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Regular readers of my blog will remember that, together with my pastor, Tope Koleoso, we had the joy of being able to chat with Mark Driscoll when we went to Edinburgh to hear him preach live. We were deeply impressed with his graciousness and kindness to us. In this, he reminded me of a man [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p><a href="http://cdn.adrianwarnock.com/wp/wp-content/media/2007/12/Mark-Driscoll-B-1-741978.jpg?65aa6a"><img alt="Pastor Mark Driscoll" hspace="20" src="http://cdn.adrianwarnock.com/wp/wp-content/media/2007/12/Mark-Driscoll-B-1-741974.jpg?65aa6a" align="right" vspace="20" border="0" /></a>Regular readers of my blog will remember that, together with my pastor, Tope Koleoso, we had the joy of being able to chat with Mark Driscoll when we went to Edinburgh to hear him preach live. We were deeply impressed with his graciousness and kindness to us. In this, he reminded me of a man who is one of my other living Christian heroes—Terry Virgo.</p>
<p>I know that many people were disappointed not to be able to make it to Scotland to hear Mark. So I am delighted to relay an announcement from Terry Virgo&#8217;s blog today. <a href="http://www.janga.biz/terryvirgoblog/?p=71">Mark Driscoll has agreed to speak next July at the Newfrontiers Leaders Conference in Brighton, UK</a>. Here is how Terry begins his post:<br />
<blockquote>&#8220;The last time I checked, the Pope was still a Catholic, the death rate was still hovering at around 100%, and the chances of getting Mark Driscoll to speak at a conference in the UK in 2008 were averaging at zero.</p>
<p>It is therefore with great delight that I can announce that we have, with the aid of certain friends (for an inspired guess see Adrian Warnock’s blog), arranged for him to be our main visiting speaker at <em>Together on a Mission </em>in Brighton next year, 8-11 July 2008.</p>
<p><a href="http://cdn.adrianwarnock.com/wp/wp-content/media/2007/12/Terry-Virgo-765194.jpg?65aa6a"><img alt="Terry Virgo" hspace="20" src="http://cdn.adrianwarnock.com/wp/wp-content/media/2007/12/Terry-Virgo-765192.jpg?65aa6a" align="left" vspace="15" border="0" /></a>In recent months I have found myself listening to downloads of Mark Driscoll’s preaching, probably more than anybody else’s. I find him completely arresting, relevant, Biblical, funny, aggressive, and packing a real punch. I believe he will do us a lot of good.</p>
<p>I love his value system and I am impressed by what has been accomplished by God through his ministry based in Seattle, where a church of several thousand has been built in a few years, starting from almost nothing and largely not through church swapping, but conversion.</p>
<p>He is theologically reformed, Biblically orthodox, and culturally relevant, and particularly addresses the post-modern world with remarkable insight. I have just read his chapter in the Crossway publication, <em>The Supremacy of Christ in a Post-Modern World</em>. I found myself underlining sentence after sentence, and simply wrote ‘Wow!’ in the margin at the conclusion of the chapter. I am deeply grateful to God that he will be with us.&#8221; <a href="http://www.janga.biz/terryvirgoblog/?p=71"><em>Read more . . .</em></a></p></blockquote>
<p>This is a fantastic piece of news. Terry and Mark are both pastors of pastors. Church planting is a major need of our world today. Leaders themselves need to be trained.</p>
<p>As an example of Terry&#8217;s gifting in operation, he has recently finished a series of posts on the vital role of the pastor in the life of a church. He re-examines the biblical teaching. I will finish this post by giving you a taste of each post in the series, but do go and read them all; they are worthy of careful study.<br />
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<h3><a title="Permanent Link to Church Leaders" href="http://www.janga.biz/terryvirgoblog/?p=67" rel="bookmark"><strong>Church Leaders</strong></h3>
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<p>As a movement, <em>Newfrontiers</em> has tended to emphasise the role of apostles and prophets. The church was originally built on the foundation of apostles and prophets (Ephesians 2:20) so they gave the people of God their fundamental identity. I have argued that we were not built on a pastoral foundation.
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<p>My argument has often been expressed by noting that pastors are called to care for and feed the flock and meet the flock’s needs. An over-emphasis, therefore, on the pastoral role can result in pre-occupation with needs. We could become need-centred instead of apostolic and prophetic, thereby missing God’s intention and forgetting the bigger picture, building churches that gradually become foreign to the atmosphere of the New Testament.</p>
<p>I have been alarmed at the possible danger of a church becoming introverted, developing a culture where personal preference dominates and shepherds major on discerning and serving people’s so-called ‘felt needs’. However, in taking this stance, we may have failed to bring adequate positive Biblical teaching about the vital role of pastors and teachers. They are, of course, the most visible ministers in the local church. They have the most ‘hands on’ role among the flock.  <a href="http://www.janga.biz/terryvirgoblog/?p=67"><em>Read more . . .</em></a></p>
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<blockquote><h3><a title="Permanent Link to Shepherds of the flock (continued from last week)" href="http://www.janga.biz/terryvirgoblog/?p=68" rel="bookmark"><span style="font-size:100%;"><strong>Shepherds of the Flock</strong></h3>
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<p>Jesus didn’t say, ‘I am the good apostle,’ or ‘the good prophet,’ or even ‘the good evangelist,’ but happily claimed to be the Good Shepherd<span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">. . .<br /></span><strong></strong><br />Although the Lord was their ultimate shepherd, it is clear that God actually enlisted men to fulfil the shepherding role on His behalf. . .</p>
<p>As the apostles go, their intuitive strategy in obeying the command was to plant churches, establish flocks and appoint shepherds to care for them. <em><a href="http://www.janga.biz/terryvirgoblog/?p=68">Read more . . .</a></em></p></blockquote>
<blockquote><h3 id="post-69"><a title="Permanent Link to Other sheep I must bring" href="http://www.janga.biz/terryvirgoblog/?p=69" rel="bookmark"><span style="font-size:100%;">Other Sheep I Must Bring</span></a></h3>
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<p>When Billy Graham came to the UK in the 1950&#8242;s and ‘60s, the call to return to God would have been generally comprehended by that generation. Today we live in a different era and though people can be born again through encountering the simplest message, we must not assume that initial conversion will result in inevitable Christian maturity, or even basic understanding of Christian living.</p>
<p><strong>Deconstructing people’s world view</strong><br />The role of the modern shepherd includes a call to deconstruct people’s previous world view. Nothing can be taken for granted. Lives need to be re-formed. Coming from a fragmented and aimless society devoid of any trace of Christian values, people need to be re-socialised and taught how to relate in godly ways.</p>
<p>Raised on self-indulgence, consumerism and rampant individualism, the new convert won’t automatically be transformed into a mature Christian who knows how to conduct himself in the household of God (1 Timothy 3:15).</p>
<p>God has promised to give His people shepherds after His own heart who will feed them with knowledge and understanding (Jeremiah 3:15). This feeding requires a radical approach. We are not called to build on a false foundation with teachings that imply merely personal fulfilment or the grasping of the individual’s full potential, or how to love oneself. The shelves of many a Christian bookshop are filled with titles which appeal to personal fulfilment as the goal of the Christian life. Coming from a culture where demanding your personal rights seems to be the bottom line, new Christians hardly need that diet. <em><a href="http://www.janga.biz/terryvirgoblog/?p=69">Read more . . .</a></em></p>
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<blockquote><h3 id="post-70"><a title="Permanent Link to Spirit-inspired preaching" href="http://www.janga.biz/terryvirgoblog/?p=70" rel="bookmark"><span style="font-size:100%;">Spirit-inspired Preaching</span></a></h3>
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<p>. . . Holy Spirit-inspired preaching brings about an encounter with God that demands a verdict and produces a changed life based on revelation, faith and love, not cold obedience to external rules.</p>
<p>God’s flock will intuitively hear His voice and respond as truth is fed to them by called and anointed pastor/teachers. Gradually a culture of God-centredness will emerge characterised by worship, faith, grace, mercy, respect, service and the awareness of being an alien people whose fundamental citizenship lies elsewhere (Philippians 3:20) <span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">. . .</span></p>
<p><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold"></span><strong></strong>The shepherd’s ability to feed and be a channel of God’s grace will result in the gathering of a flock. The sheep gather to the gifted anointing of shepherding and thus a flock forms.</p>
<p>The responsibility of the shepherds is not simply to expound truth but to develop relationships of love and trust, and in some cases to ‘parent’ a flock often made up of those who have never been parented before. <em><a href="http://www.janga.biz/terryvirgoblog/?p=70">Read more . . .</a></em></p>
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		<title>Does Piper Neglect the Resurrection?</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 00:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Many of the opponents of the doctrine of justification and penal substitution criticize us for not being as interested in the resurrection as the cross. I increasingly think that it is not so fair to accuse most evangelical theologians of not having a place for the resurrection in our system of beliefs. I do feel, [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p><img alt="" hspace="20" src="http://cdn.adrianwarnock.com/wp/wp-content/media/2007/11/tomb.jpg?65aa6a" width="50%" align="right" vspace="18" />Many of the opponents of the doctrine of justification and penal substitution criticize us for not being as interested in the resurrection as the cross. I increasingly think that it is not so fair to accuse most evangelical theologians of not having a place for the resurrection in our system of beliefs. I do feel, however, that we perhaps under-emphasize the resurrection at times.</p>
<p>As I was reading this book, I was aware that, of course, Piper was interacting with Wright&#8217;s views of the cross, so it was perhaps no wonder that the resurrection was featured less. Indeed, Wright&#8217;s massive work on the resurrection did not feature in the bibliography.</p>
<p>As I was pondering this new obsession of mine with the place of the resurrection, I found myself asking—was Piper wrong not to look at it in more detail in this book? I concluded that probably this was influenced by the constraints of the length of the book. Perhaps an interaction with Wright on the resurrection should be the subject of another book.</p>
<p>I was surprised, however, to note that on two different occasions within the book Piper fell into an all-too-common evangelical trap. On both pages—89 and 212—he cites 1 Corinthians 15:3, omitting to continue the verse to include the resurrection. The Piper quotations omit the bolded phrase below:</p>
<p>&#8220;Now I would remind you, brothers, of the gospel I preached to you, which you received, in which you stand, and by which you are being saved, if you hold fast to the word I preached to you—unless you believed in vain. For I delivered to you as of first importance what I also received: that Christ died for our sins in accordance with the Scriptures,<b>that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day in accordance with the Scriptures,</b></p>
<p>Now, I suppose I shouldn&#8217;t get overly legalistic about this, but I wish that we would all learn not to do that with that particular verse. Paul goes on to make the point that without the resurrection we would, in fact, still be in our sins, something that surely undermines any system of theology that does not require the resurrection to perform anything for us, altering our position in any way.</p>
<p>But I should not be unfair to Piper, for as we saw <a href="http://adrianwarnock.com/2007/11/john-piper-is-n-t-wright-preaching.html">in an earlier post</a>, when he summarizes his position on justification he states the following propositions:<br />
<blockquote>(1) a person is in union with Christ by faith alone. In this union, (2) the believer is identified with Christ in his (a) wrath-absorbing death, (b) his perfect obedience to the Father, and (c) his vindication-securing resurrection. All of these are reckoned—that is, imputed—to the believer in Christ. On this basis, (3) the &#8220;dead,&#8221; &#8220;righteous,&#8221; &#8220;raised&#8221; believer is accepted and assured of final vindication and eternal fellowship with God.</p></blockquote>
<p>So Piper, it seems, is NOT guilty of the charge of neglect of the resurrection. I wonder, though, how often do my own presentations of the gospel include the concept of Jesus&#8217; resurrection being credited to our account? Do I sometimes forget to even mention the resurrection of Jesus? The samples of Billy Graham&#8217;s preaching I listened to at <a href="http://adrianwarnock.com/2007/10/travel-wheaton-and-billy-graham.html">the Billy Graham Center</a> certainly did speak of the resurrection of Jesus as part of what he had done for us. The phrase that keeps recurring in my mind from those sermons was simply &#8220;He is a living Jesus.&#8221; Could it be that the preaching of the cross AND the resurrection is more spiritually potent for producing salvation than simply preaching on the cross?</p>
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		<title>Blogging, Discernment, and a Book by Tim Challies</title>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p><strong><span style="color:#cc0000;">UPDATE—February 19, 2008</span></strong><br />In January 2008, the following post was identified as the 2nd <a href="http://adrianwarnock.com/2008/01/introducing-my-most-widely-read-blog.htm">all-time most popular post with readers of this blog</a>. The 3rd most-read post was &#8220;<a href="http://adrianwarnock.com/2008/02/3rd-most-read-post-esv-bible.htm">The ESV: A Bible Translation for Everyone?</a>&#8220;</p>
<p>This post was an expression of some of my own concerns and frustrations about the blogging world I have come to love so much. I said some things I had been wanting to say for a long time, and it was not a great surprise that the aftermath of this post would <a href="http://adrianwarnock.com/2007/11/thanksgiving-and-some-changes-around.htm">lead me to disable comments on my blog</a> a month later. Tim&#8217;s book addresses discernment, which lies at the root of many of my issues with the Christian blogosphere and its direction.</p>
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<p><strong><span style="color:#006600;">UPDATE—November 3, 2007</span></strong><br />Phil has now written <a href="http://teampyro.blogspot.com/2007/11/something-nice.html">part two of his reply</a>, and I have responded with a post entitled, &#8220;<a href="http://adrianwarnock.com/2007/11/of-tone-discernment-and-charismatic.htm">Of Tone, Discernment, and the Charismatic Question</a>.&#8221;</p>
<p><strong><span style="color:#006600;">UPDATE—October 29, 2007</span></strong><br />Phil Johnson over at Pyromaniacs and I have been debating the issues raised by my criticism of him in the <a href="http://teampyro.blogspot.com/2007/10/still-not-clear-on-concept.html">comments section of his original post.</a> Just search for &#8220;Adrian&#8221; using the &#8220;find in page&#8221; function if you want to follow our specific debate. Phil has also written a new post, &#8220;<a href="http://teampyro.blogspot.com/2007/10/if-you-cant-say-something-nice.html">If you can&#8217;t say something nice</a>,&#8221; and we are debating in the comments on that post.</p>
<p>I will leave this post at the top of my blog for a couple more days as I want to give you all a chance to read it. If you are interested in some of my related thoughts on this subject, you could read the following posts:
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<li><a href="http://adrianwarnock.com/2007/10/travel-wheaton-and-billy-graham.htm">My Visit to the Billy Graham Center</a>
<li><a href="http://adrianwarnock.com/2007/07/i-dont-want-balance-i-want-it-all.htm">I Don&#8217;t Want Balance, I Want It All!</a>
<li><a href="http://adrianwarnock.com/2006/12/comments-links-copyright-policy-and.htm">My Comments Policy</a>
<li><a href="http://adrianwarnock.com/2005/11/peace-to-allprinciples-for-god.htm">Blogging Principles for Christians</a></li>
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<p><a href="http://www.challies.com/my-book.php"><img alt="" hspace="20" src="http://cdn.adrianwarnock.com/wp/wp-content/media/2007/10/Discipline-of-Spiritual-Discernment-714649.jpg?65aa6a" align="right" vspace="13" border="0" /></a>Those of you with an eagle-eye will have already noticed that I am publicizing <a href="http://www.challies.com/my-book.php">Tim Challies&#8217; forthcoming book</a>, <span class="Apple-style-span" style="FONT-STYLE: italic">The Discipline of Spiritual Discernment</span>. I doubt that many are surprised that I should want to encourage you to read his book, and I will show in this post why that is the case.</p>
<p>To begin with, however, I want to be very open and honest with you. When I first heard that Tim was writing a book I was actually a little concerned. This may surprise those regular readers who know how much I respect Tim and enjoy his blog. But I still had in my mind an old paradigm where those who are in some way &#8220;approved&#8221; as trained experts are the ones who should write books. Tim, like me, has no theological degrees. I also know that, just like me concerning this blog, he has been rather surprised by the way in which his readership has grown to an extent he never predicted (and, I should say, to a substantially larger figure than my own). So I was surprised that Tim put his neck on the line still further by taking on the challenge of writing a book.</p>
<p>Tim and I have both been riding a wave—the wave of blogging. In both the secular field and the Christian field, it seems that the most successful bloggers almost all seem to have something in common; they are not &#8220;officially trained&#8221; recognized global experts in their chosen fields. Perhaps this is because the real experts are too busy to write on a daily basis, or perhaps this is because of a new phenomena in our culture—one with which I&#8217;m not particularly thrilled, to be honest. In our 21st century culture there is a growing mistrust of any form of authority and of academics. It is actually rather sad to me that this now seems to be spilling over into the Church, and that it might seem, at first glance, to also include the Christian blogosphere.</p>
<p><a href="http://cdn.adrianwarnock.com/wp/wp-content/media/2007/10/David-Wayne-709337.jpg?65aa6a"><img alt="David Wayne" hspace="20" src="http://cdn.adrianwarnock.com/wp/wp-content/media/2007/10/David-Wayne-709333.jpg?65aa6a" align="left" vspace="13" /></a>One of the most influential early articles discussing the Christian blogging phenomenon was titled, &#8220;<a href="http://djchuang.googlepages.com/WeKnowMoreThanOurPastors.pdf">We Know More Than Our Pastors</a>,&#8221; and it embodied this trend. It concerned me immensely. <a href="http://jollyblogger.typepad.com/jollyblogger/2005/07/tim_bednars_pap.html">David Wayne summarized</a> this piece and sounded some very valid concerns about it. For me, I wanted almost nothing to do with the concepts outlined therein.</p>
<p>Even as I have enjoyed the way that I have been able to be buffeted in this hurricane called blogging, I have also been somewhat concerned about some of the implications of this new marketplace of ideas. I suppose that, despite these reservations, I remain in the blogosphere because I am drawn to it as surely as a bee is to a flower in bloom, and as the Apostle Paul was to the debating spots of ancient Athens.</p>
<p>I am also here because somebody has to be. I am certainly not here because I imagine myself to be at the vanguard of some modern reformation that will sweep away the &#8220;old guard&#8221; in the way some bloggers (usually not Christian ones) speak about. I am here because, ironically enough, I see this new media as a way that we can proclaim the old, old message. I am here because, in some small way, I can act as a signpost to direct passing traffic to wiser heads than mine. The more readers I find visiting here, the more I feel the need to both quote and link to others. Whatever the size of your blog readership, that filtering process is the single best gift you can give both to your readers and to the writers of even the biggest blogs. I am pleased that the headlines from several bloggers who deserve to be read more than I do appear in the &#8220;Warnie Winners&#8221; box in my sidebar.</p>
<p>The blogging community can be thought of as a road system, a library, an ecosystem, or perhaps most aptly of all, a jungle. With no single classification system or map, what is needed are good wise guides. There are precious few of them online.</p>
<p><a href="http://cdn.adrianwarnock.com/wp/wp-content/media/2007/10/Tim_Sepia-766457.jpg?65aa6a"><img alt="Tim Challies" hspace="20" src="http://cdn.adrianwarnock.com/wp/wp-content/media/2007/10/Tim_Sepia-766447.jpg?65aa6a" width="45%" align="right" vspace="20" /></a>One such wise guide is surely Tim Challies. I know that he shares many of my concerns about the world of blogs, and has a similar attitude in wanting to support those in positions of authority in the Church rather than tearing them down. I know that he is submissive to others. I like that he respects those, like me, who might differ with him on secondary issues, but firmly join hands on the Gospel. I have also met a godly man called <a href="http://preacherthoughts.blogspot.com/">Paul Martin</a> who pastors him wisely. The more I came to know Tim, the more my concerns about the concept of a non-expert writing a book began to evaporate. If the modern world needs non-experts to grapple with the words of the experts and make them more accessible to the rest of us, then those who have been given that gift should be encouraged to find an appropriate outlet, even if that looks a bit different from previous models.</p>
<p>Writing a book is very different from writing a blog, even though the number of words involved in a blog over the years may be just as numerous. With a blog, there is instant feedback, and a chance to easily go back and reword or retract an argument. With a book, not only is it more permanent, it is somehow expected to be more accurate, so the responsibility feels greater. James 3 is ever present in the mind of a preacher, and should be in the mind of a blogger as well. Speaking personally, I have applied it even more strongly to the concept of writing a book, which quite frankly has always terrified me rather than attracted me.</p>
<p>But for some people there comes a time when a book finds them and demands to be written. That is what has happened to the man I am glad to call my friend, Tim Challies. He is painfully aware of the cacophony of voices available online, and the need to discriminate between them. The average member of your congregation might well be either theologically illiterate or have imbibed a watered-down, overly simplistic doctrinal system which he has heard away from your church pulpit. Blogs, mp3s, books, magazines, TV programs, conferences, and radio all compete for the minds of modern Christians. The battle has never been stronger. How should we respond to this?</p>
<p>There are a number of different approaches that could be taken. We could just ignore what is going on around us, which would not be wise. We could, instead, become great experts in the different types of false teaching that are being purveyed. There are some bloggers who seem to have the goal of ferreting out everything that is less than perfect. These are often termed &#8220;watch blogs.&#8221; The temptation is to take some kind of perverse gratification out of proving others wrong. As the years have gone on, by God&#8217;s grace, that temptation has increasingly looked less appealing to me, although there was a time when I frequently delighted in giving in to it.</p>
<p><img alt="Phil Johnson" hspace="20" src="http://adrianwarnock.com/Phil%20Johnson.jpg?65aa6a" align="left" vspace="13" />Sometimes even bloggers with good intentions can fall into the trap of being over zealous in their discernment. I am sure I have fallen into that trap myself at times. But this past week, <a href="http://teampyro.blogspot.com/2007/10/still-not-clear-on-concept.html">in reading a post by Phil Johnson</a>, I thought I saw a classic example of someone who had over-reached himself in reacting to some things he had discerned. Now, don&#8217;t get me wrong. I share many of Phil&#8217;s concerns. I am indeed concerned about some aspects of Willow Creek&#8217;s ministry philosophy. Personally, I am not sure how to interpret <a href="http://revealnow.com/story.asp?storyid=49">their recent &#8220;repentance</a>,&#8221; and certainly was VERY worried to see that <a href="http://www.willowcreek.com/shift2008/home.aspx">they have invited Brian McLaren to speak</a> at one of their conferences. BUT it bothers me that Phil seemed (at least to me) to be implying that Willow Creek has absolutely nothing to teach us. I am sure that if we fail to recognize something as being good and helpful and true, we fail in our discernment as much as if we blindly accepted everything in a naive way. I know it sounds cliched, but we really must be looking for the good in people, especially in those who have not denied important aspects of the Gospel. It is quite correct to say, &#8220;I like what this person says about the following subject, and have learned from them, although I disagree strongly with them on another subject.&#8221; If, instead, we lump people and whole movements together into an amorphous lump of theological rejects, surely we risk alienating them and, ironically, driving some further away from the truth of the Gospel that I know Phil and I both love.</p>
<p>But if Phil was harsh on Willow Creek, he went on in the same post to be even harder on the charismatics. I mention this because this kind of over-zealous discernment is sadly quite common. Again, quite rightly, he was pointing out the sin in a specific charismatic minister. Also, quite rightly, he was pointing out that due to an absence of discernment this kind of error is all too common in the charismatic movement, and sadly is often covered up. So far so good. And, despite his claim that his charismatic friends would be angry at these comments, I agree! What I struggle with, however, is that he then makes plain that he believes that charismatic doctrine itself is to blame for these sins and the lack of discernment that allows them to continue unchallenged. Phil applies the red card of his disapproval to the entire movement that, despite all its acknowledged weaknesses, I am thrilled to have been part of for decades. Should we use discernment with such a broad brush stroke?</p>
<p><img alt="Jesse Phillips" hspace="20" src="http://adrianwarnock.com/Jesse%20Phillips.jpg?65aa6a" align="right" vspace="13" />My dear friend, Jesse Phillips, <a href="http://earnestlydesire.blogspot.com/2007/10/stimulating-debate-with-pyromaniacs.html">took Phil to task admirably</a> in the comments section and repeated this on his own blog. No one seemed able to answer his arguments that while it is true that some second-order implications which people draw from core charismatic doctrine do encourage gullibility and an absence of discernment, the core doctrines themselves do not need to do so. Phil, in reply, claimed that reformed charismatics were a new breed, and only caused by alien influences on the movement. This is not true. Men like <a href="http://www.google.com/blogsearch?hl=en&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;q=Terry+Virgo+site%3Aadrianwarnock.com+OR+site%3Aadrian.warnock.info&amp;btnG=Search+Blogs">Terry Virgo</a> and <a href="http://www.google.com/blogsearch?hl=en&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;q=CJ+Mahaney+site%3Aadrianwarnock.com+OR+site%3Aadrian.warnock.info&amp;btnG=Search+Blogs">C. J. Mahaney</a> and the groups of churches they lead have been around for many decades now. Perhaps these groups are not as visible as they could be, but I know they are also not alone in being committed to a firm grasp on reality and the wisdom of the Bible.</p>
<p>To simply dismiss the entire charismatic movement in just one sentence does not seem a wise response to the fastest growing segment of Christianity. It is not, of course, wrong to disagree with charismatic theology (some of my best friends online are cessationists, like Tim himself, of course), but Phil does not seem to recognize any good that has come out of the movement. It would be like me refusing to acknowledge the fantastic work being produced by cessationists. Much as I disagree with some of the positions cessationists take, I am willing to go so far as to state I learn as much and perhaps even <span class="Apple-style-span" style="FONT-STYLE: italic">more</span> helpful theology from their teachers as I do from fellow charismatic teachers. Doesn&#8217;t discernment <span class="Apple-style-span" style="FONT-STYLE: italic">require</span> that we identify helpful material even when it comes from those we disagree with on relatively minor points?</p>
<p>There is surely another way to respond to the marketplace of ideas to which we are exposed in today&#8217;s church. The single best approach to discerning truth from error is to focus on understanding and proclaiming <em>the truth</em> more (while remaining aware of what is being taught around us). We need to learn to recognize the truth for ourselves by studying the Bible. But we must recognize that we ourselves are not immune to error. We need to ask God for humility wherein we submit ourselves to the views of others and are willing to be taught by them. Indeed, we should be willing to use our discernment as a sieve to strain out the good bits from a mixture of error in order to do so. None of us has a monopoly on truth, or for that matter, error. Some may grasp certain aspects of the truth with remarkable ease, while others of us may struggle to understand it for years. There is, in my view, often much truth in the very ministries of those who we eagerly criticize. We can learn from more people than we like to think we can—provided we have discernment. I am frequently provoked when I read the writings or listen to the teachings of others who come from different parts of the Church than I. This must be done with caution, of course, and requires that I have studied the Bible for myself first. The more we understand the biblical truth for ourselves the better skilled we will become at testing everything and holding onto the good. I love the way Tim says it in his book:<br />
<blockquote>&#8220;We can best know what is wrong by first knowing what is right. Experts on counterfeit currency know this as well. They train others first to know the traits of genuine currency because such knowledge will make apparent what is fraudulent. Christians need to dedicate themselves to learning and knowing truth so that what is evil and abnormal will appear obvious. For this reason the Apostle writes, “Finally, brothers, whatever is true, whatever is honorable, whatever is just, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is commendable, if there is any excellence, if there is anything worthy of praise, think about these things” (Philippians 4:8). He encourages us to think first and foremost about what is right and true and pure and lovely. In Romans 16:19b he says this as well, exhorting the Roman church “to be wise as to what is good and innocent as to what is evil.” Never does the Bible tell us to dwell primarily or repeatedly upon what is false.</p>
<p>The relationship of truth to error is such that we can best know error by knowing truth. The opposite is not true. People who invest undue effort in concentrating upon what is false will not necessarily be able to identify what is true. By dwelling upon the beautiful truths of Scripture we will subsequently learn discernment. A discerning person will know that he must focus his heart upon what is true and pure and lovely, having confidence that in doing this God will bless Him with the ability to expose darkness.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Tim Challies takes us from the turbulent marketplace of ideas that is the modern western church back into the world of the Scriptures. Sadly, today many people fall into the trap of being naively blown from one wind of teaching to another. Others become so expert at straining out the gnats of what they believe to be error that they are unable to learn from anybody. Instead they believe themselves to be the guardians of &#8220;true&#8221; doctrine. Tim shows us from the Bible itself how to avoid both errors. Tim&#8217;s reliance on the Bible is refreshing in an age when doctrinal pillars of our faith are being challenged by prominent preachers, and there is a constant search for novelty in parts of the Church. This book, like no other I have seen, aims to give ordinary Christians like you and me the tools we need to learn how to discern truth from error. I wholeheartedly urge you to get yourself a copy and read it, and then buy one for a friend.</p>
<p>I will close by quoting another passage from Tim&#8217;s book that expresses well his aim in writing the book:<br />
<blockquote>This book is written for the general reader who wishes to understand discernment, to understand what the Bible teaches us about discernment, and who wishes to equip himself in this discipline. It is not written primarily for people with theological training, though I trust they, too, can benefit from it. Rather, it is written for you and for me—average Christians living in a culture and in a church where it so often seems that anything goes. It is written for those who look at much of what is said and done in the name of Jesus and ask themselves, “How can this be right?” It is written for all those who believe that it is the duty of every Christian to think biblically about all areas of life so that they might act biblically in all areas of life . . .</p>
<p>I do not intend to do the work of discernment for you. There are many books, web sites, and ministries that claim to teach discernment but do so by simply listing all the things you must do and the things you must not do. This book approaches the subject differently and is the result of my studies in Scripture to find the tools of discernment that God provides to us in his Word. And so I will not present a list of ministries you should avoid or endorse, authors whose books you should burn or buy, and music you should not listen to or that you should immediately download to your MP3 player. Rather, I hope to teach biblical wisdom on how you and I can become more discerning. I will present to you the wisdom of the Bible as it teaches us how we can become men and women of discernment. I will present principles you can use as you walk this life distinguishing between what is truth and what is error, what is right and what is wrong.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>INTERVIEW &#8211; Greg Haslam On Filling Martyn Lloyd-Jones&#8217; Pulpit</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[It is a pleasure to welcome to my blog, Greg Haslam, who is the current successor to Martyn Lloyd-Jones at Westminster Chapel in London. Adrian To begin with Greg, can you tell us a bit about yourself? GregI am a &#8216;scouser,&#8217; born in Liverpool in 1953, who lived in a rough area of the city [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p>It is a pleasure to welcome to my blog, Greg Haslam, who is the current successor to Martyn Lloyd-Jones at Westminster Chapel in London.</p>
<p><strong><em><span style="color:#006600;">Adrian </span></em></strong><br />To begin with Greg, can you tell us a bit about yourself?</p>
<p><strong><em><span style="color:#000099;">Greg<br /><img hspace="40" src="http://cdn.adrianwarnock.com/wp/wp-content/media/2007/10/Greg-Close-up-756909.jpg?65aa6a" width="50%" align="right" vspace="10" border="0" /></span></em></strong>I am a &#8216;scouser,&#8217; born in Liverpool in 1953, who lived in a rough area of the city called Bootle (where the kids played &#8216;tic&#8217; with hatchets). I came from a broken home, with much sadness due to my parents&#8217; marital breakdown and eventual divorce when we children were still very young. It was persistent school friends who later told me fully about Christ. I attended a Billy Graham big-screen Gospel crusade relay to Liverpool on June 30, 1967, and after a big emotional struggle with doubt and many fears that Christ would not have me (the scars of rejection were still there from the break-up of my parents’ marriage and the lack of a father&#8217;s love), I came to faith in Christ that night. That was 40 years ago! My whole world and life-direction dramatically changed, and interest in theology was stirred soon after with input from my new Baptist church radical youth leaders. Two years later, at the Keswick Convention, listening to a fairly young John Stott on II Timothy (four hours of amazing teaching), I felt the call to become a preacher. This started, remarkably, within twelve months of that Keswick convention in that I was invited to preach at an independent Methodist church and became a regular on their circuit as a ‘the boy preacher’ on a Honda 50!</p>
<p>Not long after, I met and married my wife, Ruth, and we now have three amazing adult sons who are all serving Christ. The eldest two, James and Andrew, are marred (a doctor and a pastor) and the third, Joshua, is studying Philosophy at UCL. We have one gorgeous granddaughter from James and Emily. Andrew has just started work at the Chapel leading our 18’s to 30&#8242;s ministry.</p>
<p>I studied Theology and History at Durham and the London Theological Seminary (Dr. Lloyd-Jones&#8217; new venture in ministerial training), and I became pastor of Winchester Family Church (later to be part of Newfrontiers) at age 27. I stayed there for twenty-one years until my move to Westminster Chapel in 2002. My interests include all kinds of books (of course!), movies (especially gritty westerns, war movies, and thrillers), good food, good music, philosophy and culture, apologetics, writing, speaking, and motorcycling.</p>
<p><strong><em><span style="color:#006600;">Adrian<br /></span></em></strong>How did you come to be preaching in one of the world’s most famous pulpits? What was the journey like? What is it like to be the successor to men like Dr. Martyn Lloyd Jones and Dr. R. T. Kendall?</p>
<p><em><span style="color:#000099;"><strong>Greg</strong><br /></span></em>My journey as a pastor in Winchester (1980—2002) was a hard learning curve which included making the transition from hard-line Reformed theology that either ignored the Holy Spirit to a criminal degree or resisted him; through my own experience of baptism in the Spirit, desperation for change in the church I pastored, a fresh vision of what church can and ought to be; to the embrace of a full-blown Word and Spirit theology and ecclesiology, along with an optimistic post-millennial eschatology and a restorationist/revivalist view of the Gospel of God&#8217;s kingdom with its total world and life view.</p>
<p><a href="http://cdn.adrianwarnock.com/wp/wp-content/media/2007/10/Westminster-Chapel-2-723912.jpg?65aa6a"><img alt="Westminster Chapel, London" hspace="20" src="http://cdn.adrianwarnock.com/wp/wp-content/media/2007/10/Westminster-Chapel-2-723909.jpg?65aa6a" align="left" vspace="20" /></a>Westminster Chapel&#8217;s fame worldwide is deservedly based upon its ministers&#8217; loyalty to Scripture and faithful declaration of it, an influence that has spanned the world throughout the 20th century. My predecessor, Dr. R. T. Kendall, wrote to me in late 2000. He was looking for a successor who was &#8216;a preacher, Reformed, open to the Spirit, and pastoral in heart&#8217; (PROP for short!). He was convinced I was the man. I was very happy where I was in Winchester, but I dared not ignore the &#8216;call&#8217; that was coming to me to consider a move. I instantly felt that God&#8217;s hand was upon this. Unfortunately, key figures in the Chapel were not all convinced! There was resistance to having a Newfrontiers man there. The exploration process took a whole year. That year, God gave me over fifty personal prophecies that made it clear I would be going there, mostly from men who knew nothing about what was afoot. I also experienced some very special days &#8216;preaching with a view&#8217; at the Chapel. I guessed God knew that I would need this level of divine affirmation! I was eventually called. This meant that with great sadness for both myself and my wife, we had to leave Newfrontiers to do this as the Lord had told me that this was ‘For the sake of my wider kingdom purposes in London and beyond.&#8217; It&#8217;s been an amazing five or so years since!</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve always worked hard, but this job has taken over my life! I preach more than ever, write, travel significantly, and have faced the challenge of trying to build a New Testament style church in what has historically been known as a &#8216;preaching center&#8217;. Building a true Gospel-centered community of Word and Spirit authenticity has never been easy in commuter-congregation, metropolitan churches, but the task is God&#8217;s will for this church. We have seen many new people join us and great changes in the feel, direction, joy, and sense of Holy Spirit-filled community among us. People have been saved and lives transformed. Many young people have joined us, bringing the average down by perhaps 25-30 years less.</p>
<p><strong><em><span style="color:#006600;">Adrian<br /><img alt="" hspace="30" src="http://cdn.adrianwarnock.com/wp/wp-content/media/2007/10/Greg-Preaching-12.01.03-743696.jpg?65aa6a" width="50%" align="right" vspace="10" border="0" /></span></em><span style="color:#006600;"></span></strong><span style="color:#006600;"></span>Most people still associate the pulpit of your church with men like R. T. Kendall and Martyn Lloyd-Jones, who preceded you. What does it feel like to try and fill their shoes?</p>
<p><strong><em><span style="color:#000099;">Greg<br /></span></em></strong>I&#8217;ve never tried! I believe they wore different sized shoes to me! My shoes are the only ones I&#8217;m called to wear. I have to avoid imitation and be true to the man God made me to be. The advice of a black preacher to trainee preachers comes to mind: &#8220;Be who you is, ‘cos if you ain&#8217;t who you is, then you is who you ain&#8217;t!&#8221; I abhor artificial imitation of others in their style and content. God doesn&#8217;t clone preachers, and each of us is a unique creation with a unique voice. So I try to remain secure in the style and approach I take. I am second to none in my love for and admiration of my predecessors, and I am discovering just how great Dr. George Campbell-Morgan was, too! I have read nearly all of Lloyd-Jones and Kendall&#8217;s books and owe them a huge debt, but I know they would be the first to advise me to &#8216;Just be yourself!&#8217;—and that&#8217;s what I intend to be. I am presently hearing much from God about his vision for the Chapel&#8217;s future. I think both the Doctor and RT would be very pleased, because I&#8217;m convinced that something like it is what they both wanted, but never saw.</p>
<p><strong><em><span style="color:#cc0000;">Continued in part two, <span style="color:#000099;">&#8220;</span><a href="http://adrianwarnock.com/2007/10/interview-greg-haslam-on-leaving.htm"><span style="color:#000099;">Greg Haslam On Leaving Newfrontiers for Westminster Chapel</span></a></span><span style="color:#000099;">.&#8221;</span></em></strong><span style="color:#3333ff;"> </span></p>
<p>To find out more about Greg Haslam, visit <a href="http://www.westminsterchapel.org.uk/index-1.html">Westminster Chapel’s website</a>, or download mp3s of <a href="http://www.newfrontiers.xtn.org/resources/talks-and-preaches/select-speaker/greg-haslam/">conference messages by Greg Haslam</a>.</p>
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		<title>TRAVEL &#8211; Wheaton and Billy Graham &#8211; Proclaimer of the Resurrection</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[During a brief trip to the USA this past week, I had a layover in the Chicago area. I had an amazing few hours. I ate lunch with two great friends who I had never met in the flesh before. It struck me that the impression I had of them when finally meeting face-to-face was [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p>During a brief trip to the USA this past week, I had a layover in the Chicago area. I had an amazing few hours. I ate lunch with two great friends who I had never met in the flesh before. It struck me that the impression I had of them when finally meeting face-to-face was almost identical to the one I already had through our electronic communications. I thank God for the people I have been privileged to meet through this blog.</p>
<p><a href="http://cdn.adrianwarnock.com/wp/wp-content/media/2007/10/Billy-Graham-Center-765463.jpg?65aa6a"><img hspace="20" vspace="20" align="left" alt="Billy Graham Center Wheaton, Illinois" src="http://cdn.adrianwarnock.com/wp/wp-content/media/2007/10/Billy-Graham-Center-765461.jpg?65aa6a"></a>What I want to focus on in this post is what happened next. I hadn&#8217;t even realized that there was a connection between Billy Graham and the town I was visiting. At my friends&#8217; suggestion, I headed to the <a href="http://bgc.gospelcom.net/"><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Billy Graham Center</span></a> at Wheaton College.</p>
<p>I am well aware that there are at least two different perceptions of Billy Graham among evangelicals. You can read about both perspectives in <a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14204483/site/newsweek/page/0/">a 2006 MSNBC interview</a> and the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy_Graham">Wikipedia page about Billy Graham</a>. There are many evangelicals who, although they might have some concerns, greatly rejoice in what God has accomplished through his preaching of the Gospel. In Philippians 1, Paul rejoices that Christ was preached even by those who had bad motives. Surely all Christians can rejoice at the preaching career of a man who has been in the media spotlight for five decades and yet has never been accused of a lack of integrity.</p>
<p>Wikipedia believes that 2 billion people have heard Billy Graham preach the Gospel and that 2.5 million of them made a public declaration of faith in response. There is no doubt that Billy has preached to more people than any other Christian minister in the last 2000 years. If there have been some weaknesses about Billy over the years (and certainly Billy himself believes that there are) then surely the fact that God chose to use someone weak in such a dramatic way only underlines the glory of his grace.</p>
<p><a href="http://adrianwarnock.com/uploaded_images/Billy-Graham-727645.bmp?65aa6a"><img hspace="20" vspace="20" align="right" alt="Billy Graham" src="http://adrianwarnock.com/uploaded_images/Billy-Graham-727634.bmp?65aa6a"></a>The Billy Graham Center moved me profoundly. An overview of evangelical history in America led into a more detailed report of the life of the man often called &#8220;America&#8217;s pastor.&#8221; The focus was not on his role as personal counselor to every president since Harry Truman. Rather it was his preaching and crusades that were reported in most detail. Walking past photographs of massive crowds while listening to clips of his preaching brought tears to my eyes. It seemed that in every era the extracts of the messages they had playing said almost the same thing, which I have paraphrased as follows:<br />
<blockquote>Christ died, took the guilt for you, became sin for you, and rose again. He&#8217;s a living Christ. He&#8217;s here right now. He wants you to repent, trust him, and ask him to be Lord of your life, to come into your life so you can then follow him as Lord and Saviour.</p></blockquote>
<p>The focus was not just on the death, but also on the resurrection. It was not just on sin and wrath, but also forgiveness and love. He was not content to speak only of God in heaven, but also of Jesus living in our hearts. I stood behind Billy&#8217;s traveling pulpit and listened to his voice and wept that God would raise up more preachers of Christ in our day who can fill stadiums with the Gospel.</p>
<p>As the exhibition closes, if visitors are in any doubt about who the organizers really want to glorify, you are led through a passageway to the foot of an enormous cross. Then you are taken into a dark passageway clearly intended to be the grave. As you round the corner, a simple inscription is written on the wall &#8220;He is not here, but risen!&#8221; The passageway then opens into a light room clearly intended to reflect glory. I was quite simply undone by this and had tears welling in my eyes.</p>
<p>I was left with a strong impression of the need for us to preach the simple Gospel of Jesus&#8217; death AND resurrection. I also remember reading these words of Billy Graham there (which sadly I did not write down in a notebook, so they may not be 100 per cent accurate, although the sense is definitely there):<br />
<blockquote>I find that when I preach the simple Gospel with authority, quoting the very words of the Bible, the Holy Spirit drives it home into the hearts of people.</p></blockquote>
<p>The Holy Spirit was a major focus of the exhibition in several quotes. Oh, for a return to such an emphasis on the living Jesus sending his Spirit to convict the world and bring them salvation. Deliver us from an overly intellectual Christianity, oh God. Remind us that the Gospel is indeed simple enough that a farm boy with no theological degrees can become its most prolific ambassador!</p>
<p>The impression left on me was striking indeed. So much so that, somewhat surprisingly for such a fan as I am, seeing<a href="http://www.wheaton.edu/wadecenter/"> the writing desks of C. S. Lewis and J. R. Tolkein</a>, not to mention the wardrobe which inspired <span style="FONT-STYLE: italic">The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe,</span> was frankly an anticlimax!</p>
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		<title>Ruth Graham RIP</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2007 17:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The much beloved wife of Billy Graham has died. There is lots of coverage on the CT Blog Justin Taylor says it well when he writes &#8220;I join others around the world in thanking God for a life well lived in quiet, unashamed, faithful service to the Lord and his kingdom.&#8221; I am glad for [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p>The much beloved wife of Billy Graham has died. There is lots of coverage on the <a href="http://blog.christianitytoday.com/ctliveblog/archives/2007/06/">CT Blog</a></p>
<p><a href="http://theologica.blogspot.com/2007/06/ruth-bell-graham-19202007.html">Justin Taylor says it well </a>when he writes &#8220;<em>I join others around the world in thanking God for a life well lived in quiet, unashamed, faithful service to the Lord and his kingdom</em>.&#8221;</p>
<p>I am glad for the work of this couple who have represented Jesus well to the whole world for decades. I wonder if we will ever see their like again. It is astonishing to think of all that they did, and of the selfless way Ruth supported her husbands ministry to the crowds and world leaders.</p>
<p>Billy and Ruth were constants in a changing world. Ruth&#8217;s passing reminds us no man goes on forever. With Billy now retired, and <a href="http://adrianwarnock.com/2007/04/john-stott-champion-of-penal.htm">John Stott to preach only one more sermon</a> a generation of world-class Christian leaders has passed away.</p>
<p>We should pray for world class leaders to be raised up to take their place. I am sure we can all think of several beginning to rise to significant influence. But, I wonder if we will in fact see just one or two rise to such prominence as say Stott and Graham had &#8211; between them embodying Evangelicalism to several generations.</p>
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		<title>BLOGDOM TODAY &#8211; Preaching, Preachers, and the Holy Spirit</title>
		<link>http://adrianwarnock.com/2006/08/blogdom-today-preaching-preachers-and-the-holy-spirit/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Aug 2006 17:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[LIG DUNCAN ON BEING FILLED WITH THE SPIRIT VIDEO PREACHERS PARTYING WITH PIPER BILLY GRAHAM REGRETS PROSPERITY/POVERTY THEOLOGY TOM SCHREINER ON PREACHING Lig Duncan on Ephesians Lig&#8217;s current expositional series &#8211; updated each week. Complete with mp3s and full sermon transcripts. Lig also shares outlines from time to time on his blog &#8211; e.g. Lig [...]]]></description>
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<li><span style="color:#000099;"><strong>LIG DUNCAN ON BEING FILLED WITH THE SPIRIT</strong></span></li>
<li><span style="color:#000099;"><strong>VIDEO PREACHERS</strong></span></li>
<li><span style="color:#000099;"><strong>PARTYING WITH PIPER</strong></span></li>
<li><span style="color:#000099;"><strong>BILLY GRAHAM REGRETS</strong></span></li>
<li><span style="color:#000099;"><strong>PROSPERITY/POVERTY THEOLOGY</strong></span></li>
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<p align="justify"><br clear="all"><a href="http://www.fpcjackson.org/staff/duncan.htm"><img alt="Lig Duncan" hspace="20" src="http://cdn.adrianwarnock.com/wp/wp-content/media/2006/08/staff_duncan.jpg?65aa6a" align="right" vspace="20" /></a><a href="http://www.fpcjackson.org/resources/sermons/Ephesians/index_to_ephesians.htm" rel="nofollow">Lig Duncan on Ephesians</a></p>
<p>Lig&#8217;s current expositional series &#8211; updated each week. Complete with mp3s and full sermon transcripts. Lig also shares outlines from time to time on his blog &#8211; e.g. <a href="http://fpcj.blogspot.com/2006/07/sermon-outline-for-ephesians-521.html" rel="nofollow">Lig Duncan on the Consequences of Being Filled with the Spirit from Ephesians 5</a> where he answers the question &#8220;What happens when you are filled with the Spirit?&#8221;- You get to sing, make melody, and become thankful and submissive &#8211; that&#8217;s what!</p>
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<p align="justify"><a href="http://transformingsermons.blogspot.com/2006/08/in-defense-of-local-preaching.html" rel="nofollow">&#8220;Video preachers aren&#8217;t the ones living, working, and suffering with members of the congregation. A church isn&#8217;t a gathering of consumers being entertained by the latest video. It&#8217;s where the saints commune with God and one another. A video can&#8217;t do that.</a></p>
<p>Local preaching is where it&#8217;s at!</p>
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<p align="justify"><br clear="all"><a href="http://speakertruth.blogspot.com"><img hspace="20" src="http://cdn.adrianwarnock.com/wp/wp-content/media/2006/08/PK%20May%2020041.jpg?65aa6a" width="30%" align="left" vspace="20" /></a><a href="http://speakertruth.blogspot.com/2006/08/cessationism-undermines-bible.html" rel="nofollow">&#8220;Deere is effectively showing that his former cessationist position, although on the surface exalting the Bible above fallible human experience, in fact undermines the Bible and robs it of its authority.&#8221;</a></p>
<p>Peter Kirk brings more Jack Deere to bear on the great tongues debate.</p>
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<p><a href="http://www.desiringgod.org/news_events/dgm_national/2006/index.html"><img src="http://www.desiringgod.org/news_events/dgm_national/2006/images/header.jpg" width="100%" align="center" /></a><a href="http://theresurgence.com/md_blog_2006-08-07_party_with_piper" rel="nofollow"></p>
<p>Mark Driscoll Invites You to &#8220;Party With Piper&#8221;</a></p>
<p>Mark is clearly excited about this year&#8217;s <i>Desiring God</i> conference. He links to video and info on all the speakers (himself included).</p>
<p><strong>Tags:</strong> <a class="tag" href="http://del.icio.us/apwarnock/DGM">DGM</a></p>
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<p align="justify"><br clear="all"><a href="http://www.billygraham.org"><img hspace="20" src="http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:vLm3Dx6N_xfpLM:www.ncspin.com/images/ncnotables" align="right" vspace="20" /></a><a href="http://theologica.blogspot.com/2006/08/billy-graham.html" rel="nofollow">The Regrets of Billy Graham</a></p>
<p>Justin Taylor links to a profile of the evangelical of the century.</p>
<p><strong>Tags:</strong> <a class="tag" href="http://del.icio.us/apwarnock/evangelical">evangelical<br clear="all"></a></p>
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<p align="justify"><br clear="all"><a href="http://adrianwarnock.com/2006/04/interview-with-mark-driscoll_02.htm"><img alt="driscoll" hspace="20" src="http://theresurgence.com/files/mark_driscoll.jpg" align="left" vspace="20" /></a><a href="http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/faithvalues/2003112927_driscoll08.html?" rel="nofollow">&#8220;In prosperity theology, God loves rich people more than He loves poor people, as evidenced by His blessing. In poverty theology, God loves poor people more than He loves rich people, who are vilified as greedy thieves.</a></p>
<p>The problem with both these theologies is that they make money the issue. The real issue is not money, but righteousness.&#8221; Driscoll describes for the <i>Seattle Times</i> the theological implications of the world&#8217;s two richest people giving their money aw</p>
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<p align="justify"><br clear="all"><a href="http://www.sbts.edu/academics/theology/faculty/SchreinerThomas.php"><img hspace="20" src="http://www.sbts.edu/academics/theology/faculty/photos/SchreinerThomas.jpg" align="right" vspace="20" /></a><a href="http://theologica.blogspot.com/2006/08/schreiner-on-preaching-and-biblical.html">&#8220;Our task as preachers is to proclaim the whole counsel of God. We will not fulfill our calling if as preachers we fail to do biblical theology. We may get many compliments from our people for our moral lessons and our illustrations, but we are not faithfully serving our congregations if they do not understand how the whole of Scripture points to Christ, and if they do not gain a better understanding from us of the storyline of the Bible. May God help us to be faithful teachers and preachers, so that every person under our charge will be presented perfect in Christ.&#8221;</a></p>
<p>Schreiner on preaching &#8211; quoted by Justin Taylor.</p>
<p><strong>Tags:</strong> <a class="tag" href="http://del.icio.us/apwarnock/preaching">preaching<br clear="all"></p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Apr 2006 18:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[links for 2006-04-07 Just Curious . . . Could Judas Iscariot Possibly Spend Eternity in Heaven? Interesting discussion going on over at Pyromaniacs regarding limited atonement, et al. (tags: atonement calvinism hell pyromaniacs reformed) From Traitor to Hero? Responding to The Gospel of Judas Headlines worldwide announce publication of a &#8220;long lost&#8221; and &#8220;suppressed&#8221; ancient [...]]]></description>
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<div class="delicious-link"><a href="http://teampyro.blogspot.com/2006/04/just-curious.html">Just Curious . . . Could Judas Iscariot Possibly Spend Eternity in Heaven?</a></div>
<div class="delicious-extended">Interesting discussion going on over at Pyromaniacs regarding limited atonement, et al.</div>
<div class="delicious-tags">(tags: <a href="http://del.icio.us/apwarnock/atonement">atonement</a> <a href="http://del.icio.us/apwarnock/calvinism">calvinism</a> <a href="http://del.icio.us/apwarnock/hell">hell</a> <a href="http://del.icio.us/apwarnock/pyromaniacs">pyromaniacs</a> <a href="http://del.icio.us/apwarnock/reformed">reformed</a>)</div>
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<div class="delicious-link"><a href="http://www.albertmohler.com/commentary_read.php?cdate=2006-04-07">From Traitor to Hero? Responding to The Gospel of Judas </a></div>
<div class="delicious-extended">Headlines worldwide announce publication of a &#8220;long lost&#8221; and &#8220;suppressed&#8221; ancient document. Highly interesting, it offers an ancient and authoritative source into the thinking of heretical groups offering alternative understandings of Christianity.</div>
<div class="delicious-tags">(tags: <a href="http://del.icio.us/apwarnock/gospel">gospel</a> <a href="http://del.icio.us/apwarnock/news">news</a>)</div>
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<div class="delicious-link"><a href="http://www.billygraham.org/DMag_article.asp?ArticleID=676">A Conversation with John Piper</a></div>
<div class="delicious-extended">Read an interview with John Piper in the April issue of &#8220;Decision&#8221; magazine.</div>
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<div class="delicious-link"><a href="http://www.challies.com/archives/001775.php">Worshipping Worship?</a></div>
<div class="delicious-extended">Are we expressing the desire, but never engaging in the act?  Instead of telling God &#8220;I will worship You&#8221; and &#8220;I will bow down,&#8221; why don&#8217;t we just do it!  Do we express heartfelt worship and not just the intention to engage in worship?</div>
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<div class="delicious-link"><a href="http://blog.togetherforthegospel.org/2006/04/the_gospel.html">CJ&#8217;s Answer to &#8220;What is the Gospel?&#8221;</a></div>
<div class="delicious-extended">He who posed the question now provides an answer. &#8220;The Gospel is the good news of God&#8217;s saving activity through the person and work of Christ.&#8221; It is specific, objective, and sufficient. And the cross is the pinnacle of that work.</div>
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<div class="delicious-link"><a href="http://paulipema.blogspot.com/2006/04/my-favorite-christian-biographies.html">Over The Broom Tree&#8217;s favorite Christian Biographies</a></div>
<div class="delicious-extended">Which do you like?</div>
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		<title>Good news when doubts attack: Blogging through Galatians</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Sep 2005 17:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><b>Good news when doubts attack (Galatians 1:1-12)</b></p>
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<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">Intro</p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">Doubts are a feature of life. Does he really love me?  Will I ever meet someone?  Is this the right job for me?</p>
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<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">There is not one aspect of the Christians message that isn&#8217;t under attack from outside and within the church</p>
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<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">Was Jesus who he said he was?  Was he born of a virgin?  Who made the world?  How can a loving God allow suffering?  Why has this happened in my life?  </p>
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<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">The world is full of bad news, and if we are honest we do wonder sometimes when the next bit of bad news that will affect us will come.  We know it will come.</p>
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<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">The world is crying out for good news, even though when it happens the papers rarely report it.  Possibly because the good news sometimes seems so pale in comparison to the bad.  News of a royal wedding excites, but not as much as the juicy details of gossip surrounding its almost inevitable demise.</p>
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<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">Is there any good news that can change lives?</p>
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<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">The answer is YES, its here in this book.  Good news for the poor, good news for the sick, good news for the ones struggling with feelings of guilt.  Good news for the lonely.  Good news for those full of doubts and anxiety.  Good news for the outwardly successful but inwardly living lives of quiet desperation.</p>
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<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">It is the Good News that will change the world by changing one person at a time  (CF Acts series)</p>
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<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">What do we do when doubts attack?  </p>
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<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><b>Go back to the only truly good news in the world and get more certain about it</b></p>
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<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><b>SLIDE</b></p>
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<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><b>I am going to be preaching a series on good news</b></p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><b>1. Good news when doubts attack</b></p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><b>2.  Good news when you feel rejected</b></p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><b>3.  Good news: the end of rules</b></p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><b>4.  Good news for the powerless</b></p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><b>5.  Good news when you feel like giving up  </b> </p>
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<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><b>The bible has another word for good news- The Gospel.  When the bible speaks of the gospel it uses a word- evangel that actually means good news.  When it uses the word evangelism it simply means the process of sharing the evangel, the good news.  When it uses the word evangelist it simply means one who is particularly good at sharing that good news!</b></p>
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<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">Why is it that the world doesn&#8217;t immediately think of Christians as those with good news to share?</p>
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<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">If the good news has gripped our lives, we will not be able to anything but share it. </p>
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<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">Can you imagine I just got married, but Im not going to tell anyone, &#8220;I just had a baby, but lets keep it private and personal  I won the lottery but its not going to change my life,  I have had the all clear from my cancer- the operation was a success but health is a private personal matter, I don&#8217;t want to get in other peoples face about it </p>
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<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"> My football team won, but I am not going to gloat to others </p>
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<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"> The war is over but I don&#8217;t want to go to the victory party </p>
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<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">We have a simple message of good news that should thrill us and excite us- how can we not share it?</p>
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<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><b>Can the message that changes the world really be that simple?  Theologians make their living by assuming it isn&#8217;t!  </b> </p>
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<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">We will be going back to the simple gospel here both for the sake of our visitors- please do invite people who are not yet Christians- but also for ourselves.  For, as Luther says of the gospel it must [sound] in our ears incessantly because the frailty of our flesh will not permit us to take hold of it perfectly and believe it with all our heart (Gals commentary)</p>
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<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><b>MY GOALS FOR THIS SERIES</b></p>
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<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">GOSPEL TO TRANSFORM OUR LIVES ALSO</p>
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<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">CLEAR UNDERSTANDING SO WE ALL FEEL  CONFIDENT SHARING THE GOOD NEWS</p>
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<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">The world says it doesn&#8217;t really matter what you think </p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">The lesson of 911 and 7/7 is <b> Ideas matter after all. </b> </p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><b>It sounds like the middle ages all over again.</b></p>
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<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><b>People die in the 21<sup>st</sup> Century in England because of a war of ideas between legalistic radical Islam and secular western life which itself arose from the philosophy of a Christian worldview it now desperately tries to forget.</b></p>
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<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><b>What does the bible have to say in the middle of the war over ideas that rages in our own heads, and the one that engulfed our tubes and buses?</b></p>
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<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">We are going to address one short book which has done more than almost any other to shape the church.  This book was the spark which led to the reformation which engulfed the church.  Luther claimed he was practically married to this book.</p>
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<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">It could be described as Romans lite &#8211; read this book, study it well, understand it then progress to Romans. I would rather describe it as Romans condensed as it is no lite book, every word is rich with meaning.  IT is a masterpiece of literature and Paul&#8217;s most passionate explanation of his life&#8217;s message.</p>
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<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><b>If you want to get to know someone,  find out what makes them mad.  The ideas Paul opposes in Galatians got him mad!</b></p>
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<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><b>READ  Galatians 1:1-12</b></p>
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<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><b>Encourage people to read the whole book and at least the next chapter before I preach.</b></p>
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<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><b>What is the good news? </b> </p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">It is vital we can remind ourselves of this, and be able to explain it to others</p>
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<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">NB  </p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><b>1. Someone can be saved on the merest snippet of truth then spend a lifetime making sense of it.<br />2. The gospel actually includes the entire teaching of the bible and thus cannot be adequately contained in any system. </b> </p>
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<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"> <b>Grace and peace from God and Jesus </b></p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"> the gospel of the grace of God. Acts 20:24</p>
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<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">undeserved.  When we are doubting we need to remember that we actually deserve far worse than we get.  CJ when asked How are you doing makes a habit of saying Better than I deserve </p>
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<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">declaration of peace</p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">WORLD looks for peace.</p>
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<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">peace with God, internally and each other, it is Gods initiative and is brought about by God and Jesus working together.</p>
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<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">What do we need?  Not what we deserve as that wouldnt be good news, but instead unmerited favour and an offering of peace.</p>
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<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><b>The Good News  can be summarised in 4 words</b></p>
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<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><b>God</b></p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">The good news is that God is our Father.  The miraculous God who can create the world and raise Jesus from the dead (v1) is also our Father (v4). We believe God is good- he is Love (SEE PREVIOUS TALK ON LOVE)</p>
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<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">God made everything that exists  out of nothing and made mankind as the pinnacle of his creation  designed for a relationship with him. This desire for a relationship  is hardwired into us, and one of the evidences for this is our  stubborn insistence in clinging onto notions like morality, love,  individual choice, nobility and the reality of the conscious self in  the face of people telling us we are nothing but a machine.</p>
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<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><b>People</b></p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><b>We are sinners (v4) That sin is what makes the world the terrible place it is.</b></p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><b>There is a present evil age.  Guess what- people will let you down badly.</b></p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><b>The world is not as God intended it to be.</b></p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><b>There are consequences of our sinful actions in this world.  Because of everybodies  sin sickness and death exists (doest mean the sick are more sinful!)</b></p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><b>Because of sin people can be awful to you!</b></p>
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<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><b>The forthcoming judgement is part of that good news &#8230;.on that day when, according to my gospel, God judges the secrets of men by Christ Jesus. Ro 2:16</b></p>
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<p style="margin-left: 0.5cm; margin-bottom: 0cm;"> Everyone has Sinned. Following in the footsteps of our first parents from whom we have inherited a self-destructive urge- we all are biased towards sin. Without the constraints of culture we would all be capable of committing the worst of sins.(See New Orleans)</p>
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<p style="margin-left: 0.5cm; margin-bottom: 0cm;"><b>CHRIST</b><span style=""><br /></span></p>
<p style="margin-left: 0.5cm; margin-bottom: 0cm;"> Despite our hatred for God, God still loves us. God does hate sin and has determined that sin must be punished, or else he could not be considered just.</p>
<p style="margin-left: 0.5cm; margin-bottom: 0cm;"> God loves us so much that he gave his only son to die in our place. Jesus took the punishment instead of us on the cross so that we could receive a pardon for our sins.</p>
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<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><b>He gave himself FOR our sins v 4</b></p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">- subsitutionary ie he&#8217;s our substitute (cf football)</p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"> Christ died for our sins in accordance with the Scriptures, that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day (1 Cor 15:4)</p>
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<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><b>Deliver= RESCUE: He rescued us- </b>cf the emergency services</p>
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<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">Rescued from the present- Christianity is a future orientated faith- heavenly minded so we can be of earthly use.</p>
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<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">Note it is not that Jesus persuaded a reluctant God to forgive- the whole thing was according to Gods will</p>
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<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"> <b>called in the grace of Christ v6</b></p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><b>Called= the initiave was Gods not ours (maybe someone here thinking why am I here perhaps because God organised it)</b></p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><b>Grace= undeserved act of kindness </b></p>
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<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">Paul is clear: there is only one gospel that never changes.  We must beware of any attempts to change the gospel to make it more palatable to modern ears.  We cannot afford to say the preachers of old got it wrong, modern scholarship has shown us   If that were really true, then we are saying that the Calvins, the Spurgeons, the Luthers, the Edwards, the Billy Grahams, the Whitefields, the Wesleys were all under a curse because they were not preaching the true gospel.</p>
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<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">As a preacher I better be quite sure I am preaching the right gospel as if I am not I am under a curse which has  been marked with Gods approval by  being included in the word of God.  </p>
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<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><b>The teachers will be judged more severely than the others (James 3:1)</b></p>
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<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><b>we shouldn&#8217;t desert it- ie we  should accept it: </b>This is so vital that Paul doesn&#8217;t even  thank God for them or pray- even the Corinthians get some positive  words!</p>
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<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"> <b>The GK means turned  traitor </b> transferring allegiance.</p>
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<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">Turning from him NOT just  the teaching : <b>You cannot turn away from the teaching of the  bible without turning away from the God of the bible</b></p>
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<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><b>See Acts 2 talk and Topes </b>  </p>
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<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">The good news is not about what we  do for God, but rather about what he has done for us but does demand  a response</p>
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<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;"><b>WE are to stop and change our  mind, deciding to follow Christ and repenting of our sins, we are  then to be baptised, receive the Spirit and join the church.</b>   </p>
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